On 6/27/2006 11:34:12 AM, Dan Minette ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) 
wrote:
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
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> On
> > Behalf Of Robert G. Seeberger
> > Sent: Monday, June 26, 2006 10:26 PM
> > To: [email protected]
> > Subject: Re: Physics Prof Finds Thermate in WTC Physical Samples
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > >If you are terrorists why should you care whether the
> > > buildings go straight down or topple over.
> Wouldn't
> > > you want them to topple
> > > to  do more damage?
>
>
> How much control do you think that the terrorists had?  While the 
> hijacker
> pilots did have a bit of training, it's
> hard to imagine that they would be
> able to do a much better job of hitting the towers with planes. 
> IIRC,
> Bin
> Ladin was surprised when the towers actually fell.
>
> Is there any indication at all that the folks flying the planes had 
> more
> of
> a plan than flying the planes into the towers and causing a lot of
> damage?

I don't believe they did.
My suspicions fell along the lines of the plot being discovered ahead 
of time by parties unidentified who took advantage of the situation 
for gain, or less likely, that parties unidentified were aware of or 
were party to the plot and were cold blooded enough to co-operate in 
order to change the political climate here.
There are people who stood to gain from such a disaster politically or 
economically and I have had few qualms about casting my yellow eye 
around since the OKC bombing and subsequent revelation of the 
conspiracy behind it. (McVeigh and all)
There are some very nasty people in the world.

>
> > Bingo again!
> > And that is the only reason it is suspicious at all.
> > What was the distance between adjacent buildings in that part of 
> > town?
>
> I wasn't aware, but there was a path of total destruction, about a 
> tower
>wide, for 1.5 to 2 blocks away from the WTC. You can see it on the 
>before
>and after photos at

>http://www.spaceimaging.com/gallery/9-11/default.htm#

Thanks Dan!
Every photo I have seen in the past (That I recall at least) was too 
far away or too close to show the extent of the debris field around 
the towers. With these pics I can approximate the distances and it 
seems to me that the buildings collapsed in accordance with my 
expectations. So often you hear the phrase "Collapsed into thier own 
basement/footprint" and these photos put the lie to that. The towers 
splashed downward *and outward* until the kinetic energy was spent and 
if there was some toppling then you can see the debris in all the 
right places.
Last night I was ruminating (thats talking to myself for you 
laymen<G>) that the tilting of the south tower should have left debris 
at a distance at least 10% of the buildings height lateral to its base 
and these pics convince me that I was not far off the mark in my 
guesstimation. That was *my* intuitive guess and I suppose I was being 
overly conservative.
Damn that's a lot of joules at ground level!

Now I think it is time I spent the next ten minutes in contemplative 
silence in remembrance of the WTC dead.


xponent
Praying My Guilt Away Maru
rob 


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