On Oct 5, 2006, at 5:07 PM, Charlie Bell wrote:

On 05/10/2006, at 9:19 PM, jdiebremse wrote:

--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Charlie Bell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
You really think that I think the Democrats are any better?
Hypocrites and liars on both sides.

You did leave me with that distinct impression.....    but maybe I'm
just used to that being the default position of brin-l....

To clarify - you think the default position is of Brin-L is Democrat (or
anti-Republican, even)? You're probably right. And to be honest, my
default position is closer to Democrats than Republicans.

I think that he was saying that the default position of Brin-L is that
there isn't enough difference between the parties. I think the list
mostly agrees that neither party really has a lock on good governance,
integrity, and all that other desirable-in-a-political-party stuff.

I happen to agree, but only to a point: I do not think that we would be
in the state we're in if Gore/Lieberman or Kerry/Edwards had taken
power in January 2001 or 2005 instead of Bush/Cheney.

I am willing to believe that we'd be in a _different_ screwed-up state,
but if the Clinton years are an indication, we would not have engaged
in chest-beating international adventurism, wouldn't have sucked
endless billions out of the economy, wouldn't have pumped the well
dry by giving what little we don't have back to those who already have
it, and the usual litany of Republican misdeeds.

Okay, someone might have gotten a blow job in the white house, but I
could live with that.

Dave


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