On 5/4/2007 7:53:47 PM, Ronn! Blankenship 
([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> At 01:42 PM Friday 5/4/2007, Martin Lewis wrote:
> >On 5/4/07, Dan Minette <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > > Indeed, Gautam made a good argument here that environmental 
> > > policy
> and
> > > environmentalist claims is a major contributor to the death of 1
> > > million/year due to malaria.  The US used DDT as part of its
> elimination of
> > > malaria.  No human deaths were attributed to DDT.  Instead, 
> > > there was
> an
> > > extremely strong correlation that, in all likelihood, was due to 
> > > the
> DDT
> > > use, between this use and the drop in the death rate.
> >
> >  <snip>
> >
> >  I can't quite tell, what is your exact claim about DDT here?
> >
> >  Martin
>
>
> Using it saves human lives.  Banning it cost human lives.  Banning 
> it
> says that obviously the eggs of a few raptors in California are more
> valuable than the lives of myriads of little black human babies in
> sub-Saharan Africa.
>

I don't think it is a binary question at all.
DDT, like many other chemicals can be used safely (WRT wildlife *and* 
humans) if it is used judiciously and not just dumped on the landscape 
as a general pesticide.

I recall Gautam specifying DDT impregnated mosquito netting as a way 
to save many thousands of lives. Even if the netting were to be 
disposed of carelessly(after it has become useless for whatever 
reason), it would carry only a small payload into the ecosystem.

It seems to me that the real problem is the greed of the chemical 
industry, they promote ariel spraying of pesticides and other unsecure 
methods.
A secondary problem is the desire of farmers to protect a greater 
share of their yield from pests.
Both of these examples reveal a mindset that unjudiciously causes 
large amounts of useful chemicals to leak into areas (of the 
biosphere) that are owned by others and/or are beyond human control.

xponent
Rambling Maru
rob 


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