> I'm fairly sure that his wife's accident was during
> his stay in Vietnam (not an excuse, but the timing is not as
> bad as it otherwise sounds), and a large number of vets,
> POWS or not, wind up divorcing. He was known to be a
> ladies' man before Vietnam, and that did not change
> after he returned home (also not an excuse!). He was a
> wise-ass in the Academy, and got a large number of demerits,
> which certainly lowered his class ranking.
i was only making the point that those flaws would have destroyed obama's
chances.
> Where he failed, to me, was in losing sight of his maverick
> status and pandering to the right (aka base): taking a more
> concilliatory stance on 'coercive interrogation,'
> choosing Palin, and using the Republican machine to run this
> campaign -- he wanted the Presidency so badly that he
> compromised his ideals to an unacceptable level (IMO). IOW,
> he screwed up. That does not mean he isn't a good
> person, but poor judgement in those instances meant I would
> not ever vote for him.
exactly, but obama is a saint by comparison for refusing to stoop to such
tactics, and for keping a cool head when attacked. i could not have done so.
> [I ought to point out that I have been watching Obama since
> reading his 2004 speech, and subsequently read his books;
> yesterday was the first time I voted *for* a major candidate
> instead of voting independent 'cause I didn't like
> the Parties, or, as in 2000 & 2004, held my nose and
> voted Democrat b/c I found GWB terrifyingly ignorant,
> inadequate and - well - imbecilic.]
> Debbi
I had obama on a redeye flight from d.c. to chicago two years ago, just before
he declared. he was in my section so we chatted for over a half hour. he was
very gracious and charismatic. i still have his card in my wallet and it got
me into the v.i.p. suite last night at the hyatt regency. the wrist band will
stay on my arm until it falls off.
jon
jon
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