>Although I would like to see the government set a good example ...

That would be nice.  I don't think it's the respnosibility of the government to 
fix it either -- my whole point was that the responsbility starts with us.  
Maybe we should set a good example for the government.

I'm a little surprised, since this is a David Brin discussion group, that no 
one has suggested that the best possible fix for government waste and 
courruption is greater transparency and accountability.  

Olin
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: John Williams<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
  To: Killer Bs (David Brin et al) Discussion<mailto:[email protected]> 
  Sent: Sunday, November 16, 2008 4:51 PM
  Subject: Re: Taking responsibility (was Re: How Government Stoked the Mania)


  On Sun, Nov 16, 2008 at 4:16 PM, Olin Elliott <[EMAIL 
PROTECTED]<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> wrote:

  > Well, you know more frugal people than I do.  I think if you look at the
  > size of credit card debt in the United States you will see that quite a few
  > of us have been living beyond our means.  I commend you, though, for
  > your thrift.  I'm trying to learn that virture myself.

  I am aware of the growing debt of many Americans. I don't think it is
  a good thing, but I also don't think it is the responsibility of the
  government to somehow fix it -- that lies with each individual.
  Although I would like to see the government set a good example, by
  spending less itself, and by no longer actively encouraging profligate
  spending by the American consumer. Just say no to "stimulus" checks!
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