2008/5/23 Paul Makepeace <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: >> Google App Engine isn't really hosting - you can have any language as >> long as it's python? Get real. > > If you mean, "I don't know python and don't intend to, so it's not any > use for me", then fair enough, but at least be honest about it.
No. I mean that it's effectively useless unless you fancy rewriting many many things (almost all of which aren't perl), looking at any of my servers or my clients servers, I see large ammount of C and C++, a surprising ammount of PHP, and plenty of Java to get things done. Everything from Caching to Mail to Message Queues. The problem is that it's a walled garden with only one language, and a language lacking in both variety and quality of third party applications and modules - PHP would be more useful, I could use hosted PHP as it has a lot of rather good applications (internal coding aside) that are useful, python's killer web app ? > (To say it isn't really hosting is absurd: you get space for static > files, python, and a datastore. A more realistic issue is "I'm not > familiar with a typed key=value data model" and/or "it's not MySQL") Well, yeah - you have a walled garden without an RDBMS, only a limited subset of Python, and um.. little else. > I know you're a Perl zealot (also fair enough) Nope. I just happen to know it well, and have yet to really need much else. PHP and Java have killer apps, and I can get by with what I know in each, heck - I'm looking at spending a fair ammount of cash to learn Java formally, because it has stuff that Perl doesn't and I (or rather my clients) need. Python and Ruby may be cooler, but they have neither the compelling apps or enough difference from Perl, etc to justify investing effort in them. > ... but to ding something for being python really is the pot calling the > kettle black. Nope. It exposes Google's internal politics, which is ugly. It also makes the walled garden even worse, by being a walled garden with only one tool with which to tend it. > It shows you probably haven't even looked at Django, which in some significant > areas is way ahead of Catalyst. I don't use Catalyst or Django, why would I look at Django when even the locla python programmers I work with choose a PHP framework instead ? > And if you think App Engine will only support python, think bigger ;-) I'm expecting it to support serverside javascript before perl, no bad thing in itself, but still a similar scenario (lack of good ready made applications, few third party packages - particularly after the limitations imposed for the googleapps hosting system). -- http://www.aarontrevena.co.uk LAMP System Integration, Development and Hosting _______________________________________________ BristolBathPM mailing list [email protected] http://mailman.bristolbath.org/mailman/listinfo/bristolbathpm
