I've played at various tournaments in the UK for the last 3-4 years and to be honest I
can say that I've never experienced somebody stalling me before I had the disc, at
least not in any sort of "cheating" fashion.
The only situations I can think of where this happens is when somebody moves to the
disc ready to take possesion, but then halts before picking up the disc in order to
allow his/her team time to set up. In this case I have seen the marker start stalling
in order to force the player to take possesion. This situation is really a case of
spirit, with the hesitation basically being an example of bad spirit.
If I were you and this does happen again just call it as a foul. Of course if this is
happening because you are hesitating to take possesion then there's no reason to
complain in my mind.
Matt
Hustlers
>>> "Miranda Kuiper" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 06/07/01 02:13pm >>>
I am not much of a e-list writer, but this is annoying me so much I just
want to settle this for once and for all.
I got a discussion on the pitch now a couple of times about the timing of
starting stalling. Perhaps it's a UK thing but players around here tend to
start stalling while the thrower-to-be is not in possession yet. The reason
they come up with is "you are allowed to start stalling 3 meters away from
the thrower, even if the thrower-to-be is not in possession of the disc
yet."
Well maybe it's me, but you are only a thrower if you have possession of the
disc. See quote of WFDF rules:
4.10 The Thrower:
 A. A player may become "the thrower" by fielding a pull, receiving
the disc from a teammate, intercepting a pass from an opponent, or by
picking up the disc after a turnover. Whenever the disc is on the ground
following a turnover, whether in or out-of-bounds, any player becoming
offense may take possession of the disc and become the thrower.
So in my view you are only allowed to start stalling if the handler is in
possession. And yes, it that case you may start on 3 m distance. See WFDF
rules about possession and stalling:
404.12 The Receiver:
 A. Possession: A receiver gains possession by demonstrating
sustained contact and control of a non-spinning disc while the receiver is
on the ground and in-bounds
404.11B. Stalling: Once a marker is within 3 m of the thrower, he or she may
initiate a count. This consists of the marker calling, "Stalling," and then
counting at one second intervals to ten.
I do know that at WC and EC a rules is used for preventing the game from any
delay. But I cannot find the rules on the WFDF site. Based on my memory that
rule allowed a defender to start stalling by touching the disc while the
thrower-to-be had not touched the disc yet, in order to prevent delay in the
game. As I remember that rule, you had to restart stalling once the thrower
became indeed a thrower by picking up the disc. Therefore offence was only
allowed 10 sec's to get set up.
Perhaps somebody can get hold of this specific rule, so we will all know the
right way to start stalling. If we can find this rule, I also would like to
know if this rule applyes only to WC and EC, or also to the Tours. Since
they do not seem to be stated in the WFDF rules on the web-site. Once more,
this e-mail is not to start an e-mail chain of reactions, but to settle this
for once and for all, because I prefer not to have this discussion on the
pitch.
Cheers,
Miranda
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