Diggler,

I am not on the UKU board, I was very briefly as student coordinator last
year. I have no official capacity either in the UKU or organizing Tour 3. 

However Britdisc is a forum for sharing information and debate. Simon posted
his complaint to both the DoC and Britdisc and as far as I see it opened the
issue for discussion.

Everyone is affected by the seeding, Paddy Murphy are a good team, there is
every possibility that they might improve on their seeding and get a
crossover for 5-12, that affects all top8 teams and obviously all teams now
seeded lower than them are affected. It would in fact be to my teams
advantage to have them seeded 17, that way we couldn't meet them in the 5-12
crossover but as I stated before I don't believe that is the right thing to
do. I know it must be difficult for MMJ to not be playing sat in the top16,
having been in similar situations before I know how much it sucks but over
Tour3 and Tour 4 I still think it is in MMJ best interests to have Paddy
Murphy seeded above them. 

Sorry for any confusion!

Boston



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Subject: RE: [BD] Tour 3

Boston:

I can't find your name on the UKU board:

http://www.ukultimate.com/about/board.asp

Can you clarify your official position regarding T3? Read your email with
interest but not sure how this resolves the issue or how it changes the fact
that we (MMJ) still  feel we have a legitimate complaint.

I think it confuses things when every (non affected) team starts putting
their two cents in. If you were responding in an official capacity can you
please clarify which.

Thanks,

Diggler

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On 4/7/03 15:22, "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

> 
> Message: 1
> From: "Jon Palmer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "'Simon Statham'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
>  "'Director Of Competitions'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Cc: "'Britdisc'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: RE: [BD] Tour 3
> Date: Fri, 4 Jul 2003 12:04:24 +0100
> 
> Simon,
> 
> Sorry but I your compliant doesn't really hold much water. It can never be
a
> good idea to deliberately underseed a team at a tournament. Paddy Murphy
> played very well at the brit open finishing about reddog, smash & Grab and
> flyght club. Thus being seeded 13th and above those teams at Tour 3 seems
a
> good decision. 
> 
> If they were to be underseeded at 17th then it would mostly likely mess up
> your top16 chances. If you were seeded at 16 you might lose all your top16
> games on the Saturday (not unlikely as you must have lost the last two
games
> of Tour 2 to come 16th) Then in the crossover you would meet an
underseeded
> Paddy Murphy, who would most likely knock you out of the top 16 (given
their
> britopen performance), so no top16 games on Sunday of tour 3 nor on Sat of
> tour4! Is that what you want? Instead by being seeded 13th they can't
knock
> you out of the top16. You will get another chance to win a crossover and
to
> play top16 on the Sunday of tour 3 and then whole of tour 4.
> 
> The thing that hurts you is that Paddy Murphy are playing at tour 3 not
> where they are seeded. But, given that they are playing, you should be
glad
> that the DoC has seeded them as accurately as possible, its better for
them
> and better for you.
> 
> Cheers
> 
> Boston
> TeamShark
> 



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