Yo! Not disappointed at all in the end - was a great weekend with an awesome close one against curious bacon to finish it, so worked out well. I was dubious at the start (and in the middle), but by the end was quite happy with JC's decision about schedule/seedings. Like he says its in the rules for this year, and been used years before effectively. Doesn't mean a clever person couldn't come up with something new/imroved of course.
Strange for the plate to go to 9th tho - didn't they lose their quarter? If only I could think of something to disagree with here! Quickie, along the lines of DJs thoughts about MT3/natts. We (brighton) were gonna send a fully first team to nationals (as opposed to the evenish split we've got at the mo) - and it would be nice to have the opportunity to do this. We are still however opposed to putting an extra weekend in this late in the year. We could send a first team to the last tour I guess - but we weren't planning on trying to do to well in the tour, but use it for development of players/teams. LAters Tom On 5/15/07, Jaimie Cross <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Oscar, I wrote the schedule, it was my decision to use it. I'm on the scheduling committee, and they were given sight of the schedule, although as it is the schedule that we've been using on the Mixed Tour for the past two seasons and it was stated in the Mixed Tour rules 2006 that it would be used this season, it seems a little late to make a complaint! It's also unclear what you are complaining about. You lost one game and came 27th, which was similar to my weekend in that we lost one game and came 2nd. So why did we come 2nd and you 27th, well probably because we beat the teams that came 3rd and 4th and 8th and 9th, so 2nd seems about right. I assume you lost to a team that came (say) 25th, and beat teams that finished (say) 28th, 29th, 30th, 32nd & 33rd so similarly 27th seems about right for you. Ok, you didn't get a chance to play my team so we can't be CERTAIN my team was better than yours, but I think the format generally does give a fair chance to all teams to prove their position, and improve it over the course of the season. Ok it might be dissapointing for Brighton 2 that they won ALL of their games and could only come 13th, but they changed the way they pick their teams this year, and they now have the chance to make it into the top 8 at Tour 2. Ok, this is far too dull to continue. I hope I've made a point. Jaimie On 15/05/07, Oscar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I said I would so hear it is: > This is my whole-hearted apology to Thac and Taz. I now have it on > reliable > information that the scheduling decisions were those of the Mixed > Committee > rather than that of the TDs. I'm sorry if any offence was taken, I was > wrong. > For the record, I really enjoyed MT1 and had more fun there than I have at > a > tournament for a long time (did miss access to the skittle alley on > Saturday > night though) and I look forward to many more Tours in Cardiff. > > My concerns about the schedule do still stand though. What is the point of > having a scheduling committee if you aren't going to use it? Surely one of > it's fundamental purposes should be to ensure that the important events > have > satisfactory scheduling? > > I'm finished now. > Oscar > > > On 14/05/07, Oscar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > I'm not really sure how the Indoor Nationals situation fits into an > > argument about Tour? > > I'd just like to point out that the teams that broke the rules were > > discovered and the penalties that were handed to them were excepted > (some > > more graciously than others). I think that the UKUA and whoever run > Indoor > > Regionals/Nationals in future will have learnt from the event this year > and > > we should take more positives from the way that the other teams behaved > than > > how the few did. > > The scheduling concerns have been raised and changes have been made for > > next year. We're a growing sport which we all love and want to play. > > Mistakes will be made and one of the biggest strengths of UK Ultimate is > > that we seem to quickly learn from these mistakes/unfortunate events and > > they very rarely repeat themselves. > > (On an aside, I'd like to mention that the majority of issues from > Indoor > > Nationals were more than satisfactorily dealt with, with only two > situations > > remaining and one of those in the process of being rectified. I'd like > to > > again offer my sincere thanks on behalf of myself and FlyghtClub to the > UKUA > > and it's members for their ongoing support in these matters). > > > > Another point that I'd like to bring up that is more on the subject > > everyone has been talking about occurred at MT1. > > A simple modification to any schedule that, I believe, can only benefit > > the development of the game is to put lower ranking games on pitches > > near/next to higher ranking games. > > At MT1, the bottom 6 were isolated on the furthest pitches from the > > pavilion for the entire weekend. It wouldn't take much to switch a few > > pitches round and make the lower ranked teams feel a little less like > second > > class citizens. > > > > Also, people seemed happy with the schedule at the top end but I'm not > > sure how a team can lose 1 game all weekend and, in a fair schedule, > finish > > 27th? I think there was probably a potential round of cross-overs that > were, > > for some reason, missed out. I heard disturbing rumours that there is a > UKUA > > scheduling committee and that these people were not consulted by the TDs > for > > MT1. > > If this is not the case and, I emphasise, it is only hearsay, then I > fully > > and whole-heartedly apologise but it still grates a little that we > finished > > so low despite performing much better than we expected to. > > > > As ever, my views and not, necessarily, those of my team (at least on > the > > points related to Mixed Tour). > > > > Oscar > > > > Oh - I forgot the fiasco (sorry oscar to bring this up again!) of indoor > > > nationals. add that to the list. Same wekeend as GB trainings - > great. > > > Teams breaking the rules and buggering off before the end of the > > > tournament, > > > playing with ineligable players etc - what fun. If you're gonna have > > > strict > > > roster rules, then submitting rosters might be a good way to enforce > > > them. > > > > > > > > -- > The e.mail of the species is more deadly than the mail. > __________________________________________________ > BritDisc mailing list > [email protected] > http://www.fysh.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/britdisc > Staying informed - http://www.ukultimate.com/staying-informed > __________________________________________________ BritDisc mailing list [email protected] http://www.fysh.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/britdisc Staying informed - http://www.ukultimate.com/staying-informed
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