I think this rule was created because some players were deliberately stopping play for a slightly warped disc and then calling plays (gaining Some sort of advantage).
The whole who taco'd it rule wouldn't really work, because if the offensive team taco'd it and weren't allowed to change it...then they turnover the other team would still have to play with a warped disc. I think changing it if there is a proper stoppage is fine....makes it more Interesting with a warped disc :) Lewis -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of IndoorsDOC Sent: 14 August 2007 15:48 To: Dan Berry; [email protected] Subject: Re: [BD] Faulty disc rules I think the rule is fair enough. If the disc is dangerous (torn, gouged, punctured) or actually creased it seems silly to play on, but otherwise it only takes a second or two to give it a bit of a bend or a wipe and it'll be playable even if not quite perfect. If it's your own silly fault for landing on it or catching it stupidly you can't really complain. On the other hand, you could add something to the rule about who caused it - if it's bent or muddy because a defender squished it as you caught it, or as a result of a foul (which isn't a stoppage as it'll be automatically declined if the catch is made) then you ought maybe to be able to clean, straighten, or replace it if you want. One for the 2008 rules maybe... B Dan Berry wrote: > Interesting. > > So let's say our fat chump of a handler (Dave Cross) lays out, turns the > disc into a banana and gets up to inspect the damage. > > In this situation, I've always seen the two people near the disc stop, > check the disc using the eminently scientific method of look at it like > a plumber does a boiler, throw it about to each other randomly, and then > either replace it or carry on. > > What you are saying is if someone stops to check the disc, you should, > in theory, stall them anyway as usual? What happens if they then say > "hey I'm checking the disc you swine!"? Should you carry on stalling? > Doesn't it all seem a bit mental, especially as you may be playing with > a disc shaped like a squashed pancake? Seems like common sense to freeze > the game and fix the disc issue. Unless the attacking team take the > resulting pause to set something up, I guess but anyone who lays out > with the aim of stalling the game by breaking the disc deserves some > credit I reckon. > > Not questioning you, just the rule. Seems a bit mad. > > In case you hadn't notice I often get confused by the rules. Apologies > if I have totally got this wrong. > > Cheers, > > Berry7. > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > On Behalf Of David Grayson > Sent: 14 August 2007 09:12 > To: [email protected] > Subject: [BD] Faulty disc rules > > Hello everyone. > > An issue which has been brought up a few times recently about changes to > rules is whether or not you can change a disc during a point because it > is bent. > > I have searched the WFDF 2007 rules and can inform you that this was > indeed one of the rules that has been clarified recently. > > "Any player may briefly extend a stoppage of play to correct faulty > equipment (e.g. to tie shoelaces or straighten a disc), but active play > may not be stopped for this purpose" > > Essentially this is important because it means that a disc can only be > fixed if the disc is not currently checked in, and play cant be stopped > to fix it (as happens quite a lot). That means on your way to pick up > the disc you can ask permission to straighten the disc, but you cant > stop play if you taco it when you layout and catch it. As with lots of > rules, it seems eminently sensible. > > The subsidiary question has been whether you can change a disc midpoint > when it isnt physically broken. I would suggest that if the play has > stopped then you can ask agreement to swap the disc, but not during > active play. There is no requirement in the rules on what constitutes > faulty (i.e. it doesnt matter if it is broken or just bent). > > For the benefit of anyone (several people) who have had this discussion > with me recently - er, turns out we were all wrong! > > I wonder has anyone ever compiled a list of common "Myths of ultimate"? > > Might be a good ultimatum article for someone (funnier and a better > writer than me) to write? > > Cheers, > > Dave G. > #3 > > > __________________________________________________ > BritDisc mailing list > [email protected] > http://www.fysh.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/britdisc > Staying informed - http://www.ukultimate.com/staying-informed > > > > __________________________________________________ > BritDisc mailing list > [email protected] > http://www.fysh.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/britdisc > Staying informed - http://www.ukultimate.com/staying-informed > > > > __________________________________________________ BritDisc mailing list [email protected] http://www.fysh.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/britdisc Staying informed - http://www.ukultimate.com/staying-informed __________________________________________________ BritDisc mailing list [email protected] http://www.fysh.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/britdisc Staying informed - http://www.ukultimate.com/staying-informed
