You definitely can stall when they pick it up wet, unless the teams have
agreed differently.
I'm not so sure about if it's taco'd though - I know a turnover's not a
real stoppage, but the D can't possibly be disadvantaged by the O
putting it into play more slowly; the O can approach the disc at walking
pace anyway if they want to. The D would usually prefer that the O gets
going slowly, rather than taking the quick pass.
And if the team becoming O inherits a disc that has been taco'd by the
opposition, then they are getting an unfair disadvantage, and I don't
see why they shouldn't be allowed to sort it out. Doing so can't hurt
the D in any way, except by removing that unfair disadvantage, and the D
gains time to set up. The team becoming O could then choose which
disadvantage they preferred - letting the D set, or playing with a
buggered disc.
This applies both if we have a who-broke-it rule, AND with the current
rules - if we're not allowed to fix the disc on a turnover then it
doesn't seem fair to me.
Personally, if I bent a disc while dropping it, I'd always let the
opposition change it if they wanted. They shouldn't be penalised for my
mistake.
B
Andy Taylor wrote:
Wee wee Dave (I love your DOND nickname, assuming I've got the right
person) and BD
What gets me about this is what a stoppage is.
Dave's words:
"Any player may briefly extend a stoppage of play to correct
faulty equipment (e.g. to tie >shoelaces or straighten a disc), but
active play may not be stopped for this purpose"
Essentially this is important because it means that a disc can only
be fixed if the disc is not >currently checked in, and play cant be
stopped to fix it (as happens quite a lot). That means on >your way
to pick up the disc you can ask permission to straighten the disc,
A stoppage is, as Dave rightly says, a time when the disc is not
currently checked in. Dave then goes on to say that on your way to
pick up the disc you can ask permission to straighten the disc. A
turnover (which is when I assume Dave is talking about walking to the
disc) is not a stoppage, and no check is required to restart play.
Therefore you do not have the right to wipe the disc dry before
putting the disc into play after a turnover, only when a call has been
made.
Of course if there is mutual agreement between teams not to stall
after a turnover until the disc has been dried, then I guess you could
allow it, but if you get to that situation and you decide you don't
want to dry the disc, but make a quick pass as a player is free, then
the defence won't be ready for it, and would feel hard done by,
although it was technically within the rules.
That make sense? Basically, as far as I can see it, you can stall
someone straight after a turnover, and if they want to dry it they do
it on their own time.
Tails
Ltd Release
PS Not the views of my team at all.
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