Would have to agree with pretty much everything in this post. But regarding the ps, is that a euphemism? and are you speaking from experience?
Its ok, already got my coat... Ed --- On Wed, 14/1/09, Sion Scone <[email protected]> wrote: > From: Sion Scone <[email protected]> > Subject: [BD] MLU > To: [email protected] > Date: Wednesday, 14 January, 2009, 8:47 PM > I was so incensed by some of the utter c...@p being written > that I > actually signed back up to BritDisc... suppose this means > I'll end up > having another argument with Grayson and Jaimie.;-) > > Firstly - MLU is not a new concept. See > http://ultivillage.com/index.php/Tournament-Series/2006-major-league-ultimate-mlu-dvd. > Watch the trailer. Hell, buy it, its only $13. It's a > *fun* > experiment to try some of the things that Dale, Jacko etc > have > mentioned; to make the game faster and appeal more to an > audience. > > It is ultimate. Its just a different type. Same way that > beach, > indoors (*spits on the floor*), mini, etc are all a > variation on the > real game. And its not going to destroy the sport you love > either. I > can't really believe that people who play ultimate, a > blatantly hippie > sport thats only been around for 30ish years, would be so > against > another new style of play. > > As for the discussion about playing vs watching: as far as > I'm aware, > no-one has actually played it yet. I expected better > really... > prejudice isn't the kind of thing I'd expect from > the Ultimate > community. > > As for the debate about Spirit... > > Derryk makes the best point of all. It is a sad fact that > there are > people who blatantly cheat. If you haven't had the > pleasure of > playing against them, or seeing it for yourself, you should > watch the > BlockStack episode featuring Ireland v Venezuela. Imagine > working > hard for years to achieve something and being beaten by > blatant > cheating. Without stooping to the same level, how do you > combat it? > I can testify that it made WUGC a much sadder tournament > for me than I > was hoping it would be. > > How about just the simple fact that SOTG is interpreted > differently by > everyone; how calls are managed at a beginners indoor > tournament, a > fun beach tournament, student nationals or EUCF are all > very, very > different. Each nation tends to have a slightly different > bias too > (there was a big discussion about this on EuroDisc, check > the archive > if you like). For instance, more North American teams > will accept > more contact, Europeans less. A lot of Americans who move > to Europe > have to change their style of play to be less physical; the > aggressive > style of marking that is prevalent in the States (I can > testify to > this having played there) would be interpreted as > "unspirited" in > Europe. But its simply a different interpretation of the > same text. > Of course, this doesn't mean that there aren't > teams in Europe who > will cheat (I can think of at least 3 major offenders). > > Fortunately, in MLU fouls are treated as a tactical part of > the game. > If you buy that dvd I mentioned - you should - you'll > see a bit where > one player uses one of his fouls tactically to prevent an > easy goal. > The referees applied the correct punishment and play > continued. So > while you might see a few, really blatant tactical fouls, > its all part > of the game; and very well-natured in fact between two > players who > both knew the foul was blatant (he just hugged him to > prevent a throw, > nothing dangerous). Its much better than being constantly > grabbed by > your defender, them clawing at the disc you're trying > to throw, etc - > all common when you play GOAT, Chain Lightning, etc. > > As for referees: I don't think we need them in > ultimate. I'd like to > have observers sometimes... but I've never played with > either > observers or referees. I'd certainly give it a try in > an experiment > like MLU. > > If you don't like it - don't play it. It won't > affect ultimate in any > way, shape or form. Its just a one-off experiment. So > just chill. > > Brummie > > p.s. no-one should ever give Si Weeks a whistle. > > __________________________________________________ > BritDisc mailing list > [email protected] > http://www.fysh.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/britdisc > Staying informed - > http://www.ukultimate.com/staying-informed __________________________________________________ BritDisc mailing list [email protected] http://www.fysh.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/britdisc Staying informed - http://www.ukultimate.com/staying-informed
