Two people go up for a high disc and as the catcher comes down the disc is knocked out of his hands because it hits the other player. Lots of people call this a strip. But the defender did not foul at any point…so in the new rules it shouldn’t be a strip but a turnover. ------------------
-----Original Message----- From: Paul Holden <[email protected]> Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2009 20:41:29 Cc: <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [BD] Strip Lewis, I don't think that there is any functional difference in the new wording, just an attempt at simplification. Noting that: Definitions - Possession of the disc ... A disc in the possession of a player is considered part of that player. ... And: 17.4. Defensive Throwing (Marking) Fouls: 17.4.1. A Defensive Throwing Foul occurs when: 17.4.1.1. A defensive player is illegally positioned (Section 18.1), and there is contact with the thrower; or 17.4.1.2. A defensive player initiates contact with the thrower, or a part of their body was moving and contacted the thrower, prior to the release. And: 17.5. Strip Fouls: 17.5.1. A Strip Foul occurs when a defensive foul causes the receiver or thrower to drop the disc after they have gained possession. It seems to amount to the same thing? I'm am not sure in what way the old wording can be seen to be broader in scope than the new wording? Regards, Paul Holden mailto: [email protected] Lewis wrote: > I'm going to be incredibly nerdy here but I don't care :P > > I've just noticed....the 2002 rules said... > > # D. Strip: No defensive player may touch the disc while it is in the > possession of the thrower or receiver. If a defensive player does so, > causing the thrower or receiver to drop the disc, the player who was in > possession of the disc calls, "Strip." > > 1. The player formerly in possession of the disc regains possession at > the point where the strip occurred and play shall resume via a check. > 2. If a stall count was in progress as the disc was stripped, the count > is reset to zero. > 3. A contested strip of the receiver is treated the same as a contested > catching foul; an uncontested strip in the end zone is a goal. > > > > New (2009) / 2008 rules say: > > 17.5. Strip Fouls: > 17.5.1. A Strip Foul occurs when a defensive foul causes the receiver or > thrower to > drop the disc after they have gained possession. > 17.5.2. If the reception would have otherwise been a goal, and the foul is > uncontested, a > goal is awarded. > > > It seems that a lot of people are still playing the top rule any contact and > the disc gets dropped = strip, but in fact it must be a defensive foul that > causes a strip. > > Lewis > > > __________________________________________________ > BritDisc mailing list > [email protected] > http://www.fysh.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/britdisc > Staying informed - http://www.ukultimate.com/staying-informed > __________________________________________________ BritDisc mailing list [email protected] http://www.fysh.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/britdisc Staying informed - http://www.ukultimate.com/staying-informed __________________________________________________ BritDisc mailing list [email protected] http://www.fysh.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/britdisc Staying informed - http://www.ukultimate.com/staying-informed
