I have always read this as 2 SECONDS, not just "subtract 2" (this may have come from the UPA rules, though I could have sworn the word second was in the WFDF version as well). If you count it out, "1,2,3,4 (contact), 3, 4" actually adds 2 seconds, whereas "1,2,3,4 (contact), 2,3,4" adds 3 seconds. However, if it is indeed meant to be "2" and not "2 seconds", then I guess you have to go from 4 to 2.
On Mon, Apr 20, 2009 at 10:20 PM, Jack <[email protected]> wrote: > Please can this be clarified... > > If I call "contact" on somebody they must subtract 2 from the stall count. > > Simple? > > Apart from the fact that I can't actually subtract two from the stall > without using my fingers, there is actually room for confusion here, because > while I was stalling " 1, 2, 3, 4 (contact) 2, 3..." > Some other, rather clever people, were simply going back one ie: "1, 2, 3, 4 > (contact) 3, 4 ..." > > This was explained to me with the following logic: I have said 4. The next > number I would have said would be 5, so instead I say 3, which is going back > two. > > I rather hope that they are correct, as I'm pretty certain that I can go > back one then continue stalling.. but I can see this leading to pitch time > arguments. > > My second question is this (sorry): "For any subsequent 'Contact' the > staller must go back to 1 and continue" So this is also without stoppage - > right? > > BTW and IMHO it's a very good new rule. I think it will resolve a lot of > pointless stoppages. > > Jack > > Here is the relevant section from the rules: > > 18.1.1.7. "Contact" - a defensive player makes contact with the thrower > prior to > the thrower releasing the disc and not during the throwing motion. > However, if this contact is caused solely by movement of the thrower, it is > not an infraction. > 18.1.2. A marking infraction may be contested by the defence, in which case > play stops. > 18.1.3. On the first call of a marking infraction that is not contested, the > marker must > subtract two (2) from the stall count and continue. > 18.1.4. The marker may not restart counting until any illegal positioning > has been > corrected. To do otherwise is a subsequent marking infraction. > 18.1.5. For any subsequent uncontested marking infraction called during the > same > throwers possession, the marker must reset the count to one (1) and > continue. > 18.1.6. If the thrower attempts a pass and a marking infraction is called > during the > throwing motion or when the disc is in the air, the call has no > consequences. > > > > __________________________________________________ > BritDisc mailing list > [email protected] > http://www.fysh.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/britdisc > Staying informed - http://www.ukultimate.com/staying-informed > -- David Jarzebowski. [email protected] __________________________________________________ BritDisc mailing list [email protected] http://www.fysh.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/britdisc Staying informed - http://www.ukultimate.com/staying-informed
