> > My second question is this (sorry): "For any subsequent 'Contact' the > staller must go back to 1 and continue" So this is also without stoppage - > right? >
That was my understanding. So, if the stall goes back to 1 and continues uninterrupted from there, we don't actually need to say "one", right? "1,2,3,4,contact,3,4,5,contact,2,3,4...." On a similar vein, if we have to add 2 to the stall (i.e. time out called when none are remaining), I figure this means we would stall as follows: 1,2,3,time out,6,7,8...." Chris' utterance count (1,2,3,6,7,8,9,10 = 8 utterances) would back this up. I have always read this as 2 SECONDS, not just "subtract 2" (this may have > come from the UPA rules, though I could have sworn the word second was in > the WFDF version as well). > 18.1.1.1.4. does not subtract two (2) seconds from the stall count after the first call of any marking infraction, or [sic] Dean. 2009/4/21 Chris White <[email protected]> > It used to be written into the rules that you did it that way > ("1,2,3,4,3,4,5,6...") and if you think about it, that is adding 2 > seconds onto your stall (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10 is 10 utterances, > 1,2,3,4,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10 is 12). > > C > > On Mon, Apr 20, 2009 at 22:20, Jack <[email protected]> wrote: > > Please can this be clarified... > > > > If I call "contact" on somebody they must subtract 2 from the stall > count. > > > > Simple? > > > > Apart from the fact that I can't actually subtract two from the stall > > without using my fingers, there is actually room for confusion here, > because > > while I was stalling " 1, 2, 3, 4 (contact) 2, 3..." > > Some other, rather clever people, were simply going back one ie: "1, 2, > 3, 4 > > (contact) 3, 4 ..." > > > > This was explained to me with the following logic: I have said 4. The > next > > number I would have said would be 5, so instead I say 3, which is going > back > > two. > > > > I rather hope that they are correct, as I'm pretty certain that I can go > > back one then continue stalling.. but I can see this leading to pitch > time > > arguments. > > > > My second question is this (sorry): "For any subsequent 'Contact' the > > staller must go back to 1 and continue" So this is also without stoppage > - > > right? > > > > BTW and IMHO it's a very good new rule. I think it will resolve a lot of > > pointless stoppages. > > > > Jack > > > > Here is the relevant section from the rules: > > > > 18.1.1.7. "Contact" - a defensive player makes contact with the thrower > > prior to > > the thrower releasing the disc and not during the throwing motion. > > However, if this contact is caused solely by movement of the thrower, it > is > > not an infraction. > > 18.1.2. A marking infraction may be contested by the defence, in which > case > > play stops. > > 18.1.3. On the first call of a marking infraction that is not contested, > the > > marker must > > subtract two (2) from the stall count and continue. > > 18.1.4. The marker may not restart counting until any illegal positioning > > has been > > corrected. To do otherwise is a subsequent marking infraction. > > 18.1.5. For any subsequent uncontested marking infraction called during > the > > same > > throwers possession, the marker must reset the count to one (1) and > > continue. > > 18.1.6. If the thrower attempts a pass and a marking infraction is called > > during the > > throwing motion or when the disc is in the air, the call has no > > consequences. > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > > BritDisc mailing list > > [email protected] > > http://www.fysh.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/britdisc > > Staying informed - http://www.ukultimate.com/staying-informed > > > > > > -- > Aussie > http://leedsleedsleeds.org.uk > http://www.flatballphoto.co.uk > > __________________________________________________ > BritDisc mailing list > [email protected] > http://www.fysh.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/britdisc > Staying informed - http://www.ukultimate.com/staying-informed > __________________________________________________ BritDisc mailing list [email protected] http://www.fysh.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/britdisc Staying informed - http://www.ukultimate.com/staying-informed
