So, if the stall goes back to 1 and continues uninterrupted from there, we
don't actually need to say "one", right?
"1,2,3,4,contact,3,4,5,contact,2,3,4...."
>
My second question is this (sorry): "For any subsequent 'Contact' the
staller must go back to 1 and continue" So this is also without
stoppage -
right?
That was my understanding.
So, if the stall goes back to 1 and continues uninterrupted from there, we
don't actually need to say "one", right?
"1,2,3,4,contact,3,4,5,contact,2,3,4...."
On a similar vein, if we have to add 2 to the stall (i.e. time out called
when none are remaining), I figure this means we would stall as follows:
1,2,3,time out,6,7,8...."
Chris' utterance count (1,2,3,6,7,8,9,10 = 8 utterances) would back this
up.
I have always read this as 2 SECONDS, not just "subtract 2" (this may have
come from the UPA rules, though I could have sworn the word second was in
the WFDF version as well).
18.1.1.1.4. does not subtract two (2) seconds from the stall count after
the first call of any marking infraction, or [sic]
Dean.
2009/4/21 Chris White <[email protected]>
It used to be written into the rules that you did it that way
("1,2,3,4,3,4,5,6...") and if you think about it, that is adding 2
seconds onto your stall (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10 is 10 utterances,
1,2,3,4,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10 is 12).
C
On Mon, Apr 20, 2009 at 22:20, Jack <[email protected]> wrote:
> Please can this be clarified...
>
> If I call "contact" on somebody they must subtract 2 from the stall
count.
>
> Simple?
>
> Apart from the fact that I can't actually subtract two from the stall
> without using my fingers, there is actually room for confusion here,
because
> while I was stalling " 1, 2, 3, 4 (contact) 2, 3..."
> Some other, rather clever people, were simply going back one ie: "1, 2,
3, 4
> (contact) 3, 4 ..."
>
> This was explained to me with the following logic: I have said 4. The
next
> number I would have said would be 5, so instead I say 3, which is going
back
> two.
>
> I rather hope that they are correct, as I'm pretty certain that I can
> go
> back one then continue stalling.. but I can see this leading to pitch
time
> arguments.
>
> My second question is this (sorry): "For any subsequent 'Contact' the
> staller must go back to 1 and continue" So this is also without
> stoppage
-
> right?
>
> BTW and IMHO it's a very good new rule. I think it will resolve a lot
> of
> pointless stoppages.
>
> Jack
>
> Here is the relevant section from the rules:
>
> 18.1.1.7. "Contact" - a defensive player makes contact with the thrower
> prior to
> the thrower releasing the disc and not during the throwing motion.
> However, if this contact is caused solely by movement of the thrower,
> it
is
> not an infraction.
> 18.1.2. A marking infraction may be contested by the defence, in which
case
> play stops.
> 18.1.3. On the first call of a marking infraction that is not
> contested,
the
> marker must
> subtract two (2) from the stall count and continue.
> 18.1.4. The marker may not restart counting until any illegal
> positioning
> has been
> corrected. To do otherwise is a subsequent marking infraction.
> 18.1.5. For any subsequent uncontested marking infraction called during
the
> same
> throwers possession, the marker must reset the count to one (1) and
> continue.
> 18.1.6. If the thrower attempts a pass and a marking infraction is
> called
> during the
> throwing motion or when the disc is in the air, the call has no
> consequences.
>
>
>
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