My issue is not with the type of surface, but with the inconsistency of
surface selection.
I played regionals in Manchester on crumb a couple of years ago and
thoroughly enjoyed it. I couldn't help but feel then (and continue to feel
now) that it was wrong for one regionals to be on rubber crumb, another
regionals to be in a 'standard' hall and nationals to be in a 'standard'
hall, as rubber crumb encourages a different form of play (sharper cutting,
less break force throws etc.) whereas 'standard' halls encourages more
breaks etc.
I've got no qualms with either surface, just feel that Regionals should be
played on the same surface as Nationals.
However, a bar on the pitch side would negate all of the above points and
leave me content for the entire weekend.
Oscar
On 7 Oct 2009 10:38, Jazz Frisbee <[email protected]> wrote:
Best indoor surface I've ever played on is in Berlin. It's an indoor
beach. Layouts galore, no friction injuries, a bar at the pitch side and
a sauna upstairs.
Vote for beach!
Jazz
beachultimate.org
--- On Wed, 7/10/09, ALASTAIR FINDLAY [email protected]>
wrote:
From: ALASTAIR FINDLAY [email protected]>
Subject: Re: [BD] Indoor Ultimate Surfaces
To: "Nick Maynard" [email protected]>, [email protected]
Date: Wednesday, 7 October, 2009, 10:16 AM
I haven't played on rubber crumb indoors so won't vote. I think though
you need to think about whether you want to play indoors or play outdoors
indoors.
For me the sprung courts offer the ability to get a lot more air than
could ever be achieved outdoors. That makes it a diffefernt game to
outdoors (and outdoors indoors) with different tactics and game play.
----- Original Message ----
From: Nick Maynard [email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Wednesday, 7 October, 2009 9:39:14
Subject: Re: [BD] Indoor Ultimate Surfaces
In my view, indoors has always been a race for grip. The player that has
better grip on the floor will (virtually) always win so everyone starts
experimenting with different types of footwear to combat the dust that is
never cleaned from gym floors. I ended up going for squash shoes that I
wet (yes, I actually spit on my hand and rub it on the sole) before every
point. I'm sure anyone who's played long enough has experienced the
horror of your foot sliding then, just as you position yourself to ride
out the slide, hitting a patch of floor with good grip and nearly/totally
rolling your ankle.
Then came the rubber crumb and suddenly everything changed; you could
wear your astro/hard ground boots and grip was guaranteed. That levelled
everything and the game was back to being about positioning and reading
the situation. There are draw backs, but finding rubber crumbs in your
bed/shower for a few days is hardly a high price to pay!
Anyway, just thought I would throw in my two pence while the crumb holds
just over 50% of the votes.
Nick
________________________________
From: Emily Harford [email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Wednesday, 7 October, 2009 9:15:20
Subject: Re: [BD] Indoor Ultimate Surfaces
Having played on both, you are just as likely to get friction burns on
either, but 3G indoor rubber crumb pitches are much less likely to cause
or
aggravate impact based injuries such as shin splints, so I have a
preference
for those over the traditional wood flooring.
Emily
-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On
Behalf Of [email protected]
Sent: 06 October 2009 23:22
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [BD] Indoor Ultimate Surfaces
> If you have no opinion but would like to see the results please select
> the third option.
>
> I will email the results in a months time.
>
> -Chef
I have no real opinion having never played on crumb, so I selected option
3.
I do have a question though.
Is crumb really that much better (currently 18 votes to 12) or are the
results just skewed by the saddo's {myself included} who are still up and
checking e-mail at this time of night!) Seriously, what's the deal with
crumb. Do people think that it gives a more 'grassy' feel and so can kid
themselves that they are still outdoors, just on a smaller pitch?
For me the two games are completely different. Being a slow old git (TM) I
find that indoors can be more about position and turning ability than
outdoors. After all, it's a lot more difficult to turn it into a straight
foot race when you know you have to decelerate in 15-20 feet or run into a
wall!
Santa
Devon 96 (outdoors)
Second Wind Solar (indoors-ish)
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