Hi BD, In a similar vein to Kate's post...
As club president of the Leamington Lemmings I was extremely disappointed and to be honest, embarrassed to see Lemmings 2 ranked bottom of the spirit table, especially with such a conspicuously low score. We are looking into this result 'in-house' but I would like to take the opportunity to apologise to the teams we played and to also ask for any feedback on what it was in particular that led to this low score. Please feel free to email me any thoughts at [email protected] As a club the Lemmings pride ourselves on being a fun loving and well spirited group of players who enjoy the tournaments and matches we enter. Hopefully the rest of the UK Ultimate scene feel the same way about us and this result is just a blip! Finally, a big thanks to the Iain Thackrah and Si Hill for organising an excellent MT1, I wasn't even playing and still had a really good time, you guys did a brilliant job with the weather! Cheers, James #7 Lemmings Club President On 30 March 2010 15:10, Mike White <[email protected]> wrote: > Hi BD, > > This is a very interesting topic. > > We've been trialling a spirit score league within collegiate Ultimate teams > at Durham University this year using the old BULA sheet that scores teams > out of 16. On the whole it has gone extremely well, but I've noticed the > average score has been around 12.5/16 all year. > > Hayden's point is something we're going to explain to captains next year, > in > that the average score they award ought to be around 8/16 or 10/20 etc. > This gives more meaning to the end result, especially to those with the > highest and lowest scores. I don't think it means much when the top score > over 10 games is 13/16 and the bottom only 11/16. > > Particularly in Durham we found that teams (generally those with little > experience of spirit scoring, but sometimes just because they'd lost the > score sheet and were lazy) would occasionally want to give "full marks" to > teams after a fun game, even if aspects of the opposition's Spirit weren't > great. Obviously this isn't the point of having a scoring system! It's > fantastic if a team deserves 16/16, but when it's a 1st team giving 16/16 > to > their 2nd team... > > The main problem though with moving towards more centrally-weighted scoring > is that it only really works if everyone does it! Personally though I > think > it's worth a try. > > Mike > DUF #45 > > > > On 30 March 2010 14:13, Hayden Cole <[email protected]> wrote: > > > I agree, whenever I am marking spirit scores at tournaments, I don't know > > what the average is meant to be. > > > > I would say that the average should be 10 (2 for each category), but at > the > > moment, the average seems to float around 12-13 (2-3 for each category). > > > > Thus, I find myself consistently marking "harshly" when, in fact, I > belive > > the other teams are all marking too generously! > > > > Hayden > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > From: Emily Harford <[email protected]> > > To: > > Sent: Tue, 30 March, 2010 13:14:13 > > Subject: Re: [BD] Spirit Scores MT1 > > > > With respect to the rankings (0-bad 1-poor 2-good 3-very good > 4-excellent), > > could I suggest that they are renamed for clarity. Perhaps bad, poor, as > > expected, better than expected and excellent. That way perhaps there > could > > be less confusion around the perceived meaning. As perhaps someone could > > consider that very good spirit is what a team would expect, but another > > team > > would say that the middle score is what is expected. > > > > Emily > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] > On > > Behalf Of Katrina Rae > > Sent: 30 March 2010 12:27 > > To: [email protected] > > Subject: [BD] Spirit Scores MT1 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hey, > > > > Having just seen the spirit scores for Mixed Tour One, I have to admit I > > was > > disappointed with what ould be I read. We recieved the lowest spirit we > > have ever had, which is sad since at the last couple of UKU events we > have > > played at we have scored very highly (even picked up a couple of awards). > > I > > realise that our score avergaes just below good, but it looks bad in the > > scheme of things. With this in mind I would be most grateful if the > teams > > that we played over the weekend could give me some feedback into the > scores > > they gave us. Either privately: > > > > [email protected] > > > > or on a public forum (although it may not be of interest to others!). > > > > Whilst I am writing this I would also like to ask for some advice on the > > spirit scoring system. I really struggle to fill the sheets out, > > especially > > this weekend. Can someone please clarify the differences between > Average, > > Good, Very Good and Excellent. Our score suggests we weren't ranked poor > > (which I am pleased about!) But the other options seem very similar. I > > also always find that we give unusually high scores because of the > > difficulty with differentiating between the categories. > > > > The majority of the teams we played mentioned how well spirited the game > > was > > in their speech afterwards, so I guess I'd just like some clarification. > > > > Anyway, cheers to the TD's and people at the Cardiff venue for another > > great > > tour event. Awesome way to start the season. > > > > Kate > > > > Kent Mixed Captain > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > Got a cool Hotmail story? 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