Frankly, it amazes me how many people haven't read the rules.

I find it very difficult to see how you can play a sport which requires the
players on the pitch to enforce the rules if you aren't aware of what the
rules are in the first place.

Everyone is taught the basic rules when they first start playing the game
but, if you think about it, you are only being taught somebody else's
interpretation of the rules. If that person has misread, misinterpreted or
simply disagrees with a rule, then the possibility is that an entire team
may play in the belief that they are playing within the rules when, in fact
they are breaking them.

The only way to have a valid discussion about a call on pitch is for all
players involved to be aware of what the rules are. This generally leads to
a swift, fair discussion and the correct result.

I've lost count of the number of times that an opponent has told me their
interpretation of the rules regarding an incident and this interpretation
has been completely different to the actual written rule. This inevitably
leads to disagreement, more players becoming involved in the discussion and
a long stoppage in the game, potentially with a long stoppage. It also
inevitably leads to both teams giving low spirit score on "knowledge of the
rules" when one team is incorrect to do so.

I'm sure I've got rules wrong in the past but it has been, at least, through
misinterpretation rather than ignorance and my opponent has generally been
able to persuade me of the fact through rational discussion of their
interpretation.

Apologies if this seems like a bit of a rant, I just feel quite strongly
about it.


On a separate point, gmail also groups e.mails with the same subject line
into conversations so multiple e.mails only appear as one. It's ace for
conversations exactly like this.

Oscar



On 18 May 2011 21:18, Chris White <[email protected]> wrote:

> On a side note for those bored of the conversation. If you have gmail, you
> can "mute" a conversation. That way you won't be bothered by it until
> someone emails you directly.
>
> Yay google.
> > Hey
> > I echo Steve's thoughts. I've been coached to "do what you do on the mark
> until you get called on it", i.e. cheat until someone points out that
> you're
> cheating. I don't like it. It's not ultimate. We're our own refs, you
> should
> not try and cheat the ref. If you want to do that, go play football.
> > Nicole
> >
> > --- On Tue, 5/17/11, Steven Hunter <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> > From: Steven Hunter <[email protected]>
> > Subject: [BD] Physicality in ultimate
> > To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
> > Date: Tuesday, May 17, 2011, 9:45 PM
> >
> > After reading the email from before talking about physical contact I
> agree
> that whilst running or bidding for a disc there will be acceptable contact.
> Also, that if an offensive player runs into a defensive player who is
> holding their ground this is fine (assuming that the defensive player
> hasn't
> moved into that position for that purpose)
> >
> > However, in recent years I have had numerous occasions where players have
> intentionally fouled on the mark and when pulled up on this have admitted
> it
> seeming to think that this is normal and part of the game, using such
> phrases as, 'if you want to call a foul, call a foul'. In my opinion this
> is
> cheating, similar to diving in football, an act purely to gain an
> advantage.
> Other examples in ultimate would be calling yourself in when out, claiming
> to have caught the disc when it is down etc...
> >
> > These other things would never be accepted if people freely admitted
> them.
>
> >
> > Is it just that I have had a few bad experiences with some unscrupulous
> people or is this something that has become accepted in certain sections of
> the game. Or is it just my inner hippy.
> >
> > Steve
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