Damn, just as I was about to score my second point in the rules
clarification game someone beat me with a much better and clearer answer...

To be pedantic though, it is the bottom left of the diagram you should be
looking at.  :-)



On 9 June 2011 16:57, Dónal Murray <[email protected]> wrote:

> Yes,
>
> Look at the bottom right of the diagram shown here from the official rules
> website:
> http://ultimaterules.co.cc/wp-content/uploads/images/decision-pull.gif
> <http://ultimaterules.co.cc/wp-content/uploads/images/decision-pull.gif>
>
> On Thu, Jun 9, 2011 at 4:45 PM, Thom Saunders <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
> >
> > I was hoping for some clarification on a rule too.
> > Are you allowed to catch the pull out-of-bounds?I can't see anything
> which
> > makes this clear in the rules. We called someone out in a Summer League
> game
> > recently because they stepped off the pitch whilst catching the pull, and
> > there was a lengthy discussion about it.
> > The only way I could see that you would be allowed to do it, is if the
> team
> > receiving the disc were the 'defensive' team and thus always in-bounds,
> but
> > in the 'Pull' section of the rules it specifically states that the
> defensive
> > team throws to the offensive team. I suppose if you clapped to say that
> you
> > were bricking the disc, and then caught it out of bounds that might be
> > deemed acceptable too?
> > Does anyone have any insight into this?
> > Thanks!Thom
> > Also, I agree with Dave, either all players move or no players move, I
> > can't see why some would and some wouldn't.
> >
> > > Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2011 16:38:52 +0100
> > > From: [email protected]
> > > To: [email protected]
> > > CC: [email protected]
> > > Subject: Re: [BD] Rules clarification
> > >
> > > Hi Alex,
> > >
> > > In my humble opinion...
> > >
> > > The rules are there to preserve what should have happened.  If the disc
> > goes
> > > back then play is going back in time and therefore the players should
> > return
> > > to the position that they were in prior to the throw.
> > >
> > > So in your example, everyone should go back, including players involved
> > in
> > > the foul.
> > >
> > > Yeah, I've seen lots of people play this rule wrongly. They are idiots.
> > > Especially the ones who will claim that the rules don't specifically
> say
> > > that the player goes back (if indeed they don't)*.
> > >
> > > Dave.
> > >
> > > * (cue usual suspects desperately trying to pick a hole in my argument
> or
> > > grammar)
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On 9 June 2011 15:56, oxford ultimate <[email protected]>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hello,
> > > >
> > > > I read the rules again recently and already noticed two rules which
> had
> > > > changed since the last time I read them in any detail a couple of
> years
> > > > ago.
> > > > These were quite explicit in their interpretation but there's another
> > which
> > > > I'm just looking for some clarification:
> > > >
> > > > If the disc is thrown and two people go up for it, the O calls a foul
> > and
> > > > the D contests it, common opinion seems to be that the disc is
> returned
> > to
> > > > the thrower and the people involved in the foul/contest remain where
> > they
> > > > are while everyone else returns to where they were when the disc was
> > > > thrown.
> > > > This has always seemed a little odd to me, and occasionally unfair.
> > However
> > > > rule 10.2 seems to imply this shouldn't happen - that everyone should
> > go
> > > > back to where they were when the disc was thrown.
> > > >
> > > > I'm just worried I've missed a clause somewhere as this seems to be a
> > > > widely
> > > > played (possible) misinterpretation (or use of an old rule), and I
> > thought
> > > > I'd get some opinions before being shouted down for trying to call it
> > at
> > > > Tour!
> > > >
> > > > Let me know what you think
> > > > Alex
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