Mohit Singh writes: >> This happens with proprietary vendors, badly written code, not worth making >> public, worst with interoperability.
> No ISP is running 100% FOSS. Its practically impossible. n Vendors
> with m devices is a truth of the trade. None can escape that.
> The only way out is - vendors take over ISP and use their pure 'end to
> end' solutions :) this they'll never do. They are clever enough to put
> ball in the competition's court.
> Customers on residential DSLs don't get any SLA
>> guarantee but that doesn't mean they don't deserve quality.
> Take a VPLS circuit with platinum labeled DSCP. They'll run over
> anything to give you quality.
I didn't get what does DSCP has to do with my original problem of network
provisioned at half-duplex on broadcast domain. DSCP as I see is an QoS fields
in IP header, and where VPLS is a VPN tunnelling technology. Can you specify
why they should stop using PPPoEoA or PPPoA and switch to VPLS for residential
DSLs. I didn't say P2P on one customer's end is choking my connection.
> Oh, and running
>> things in lab is different from running it in production.
> I talk of production only. You know this.
If I'd know that I wouldn't have said that. You know this.
> I never heard of
>> Mohan Tambe. And I hope you can see the progress with IPv6 which is probably
>> running in (test?)-beds of Indian ISPs since years, but yet to see a
>> successful deployment.
> NAT and MPLS almost eliminated need of IPv6. Then need of IPv6 had the
> rebirth. I have seen the TRAI move to make IPv6 happen fast.
Those are ugly hacks. It is like saying I will never go for a bigger home,
even if my family expands, we can put n people in my room, m people in other
room. And since we can put n people in 1 room, this has completely eliminated
the need for a bigger home. And yes I can always hold kids in my arms or over
my shoulders.
> Madam Radia Perlman once told me - "Ipv6 will never replace IPv4.
> There will be islands of IPv6 connected by IPv4". Lets see where
> things converge.
There are IPv6 CDNs[1], Big Brothers (FaceBook, GOOG), Netflix, and now CSCO
are on IPv6 also. IPv6 trials are being rolled out. Native connectivity to
IPv6 networks are available at various DCs in .IN.
>> This is completely FUD. I hope you know that TCP/IP was born in BSD because
>> it
>> existed during that time, source were freely available. There are RFCs,
>> working groups, and things which don't get standardized, were written to be
>> compatible with an already existing implementation. And it's purely
>> implementor's choice. {S,}he might have some technical reasons to go for one
>> and not other but not always.
> we all know about the serious implementor's choice. Ibrahim Haddad
> confessed on the CGL vision himself :)
cool.
>> And why is documentation going to contain the archives of discussion, that
>> doesn't make any sense.
> You took 'discussion' wrongly.
> FYI Internet had first congestion collapse on 25-10-1986. Van Jacobson
> and Mike Carels immediately started working on it. The output was
> summarized in the seminal paper 'Congestion Avoidance and Control'.
> They even went ahead on gateway side of that. Madam Sally wrote RED
> paper with Van Jacobson and everything was implemented nicely.
WTF, does that mean ? Do you want Linux to start in 80s ?
> Improvements are still going on. Even in Linux based systems. Do we
> get even a single 'practical' Internetworking paper on Linux? Its not
> because they dont care discussing and putting it like that, but also
> that nobody cares for them doing Internetworking. State of EPFL
> efforts,state of Alexey and Confessions of Haddad make strong
> conclusion against Linux based Internetworking. I still dont blow
> that. Let it be.
Did you even searched ?
>> It'll soon have something.
> looking forward to it. :)
> where do you work?india?
Yes, India.
If you look at your replies with a neutral vision, you'll see you're just
to cover up things, and some answers really don't make sense to me.
Anyways, I would like to put an end to this thread, and nice to meet you. Post
any problems you experience, hopefully they'll be solved. And all the best
with BSD deployment.
References:
[1] http://www.google.com/search?q=IPv6+CDN
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