On Sat, Sep 04, 2010 at 09:43:36PM +0530, Ashish SHUKLA wrote:
> Siju George writes:
> > On Sat, Sep 4, 2010 at 11:58 AM, Ashish SHUKLA <[email protected]> wrote:
> >> 
> >> FYI, there are several things Linux kernel does better, esp. its network
> >> stack, and there are some things FreeBSD does better. If you've weird
> >> fantasies about your network setup (including multi-path routing), in that
> >> case GNU/Linux is the one of the best way to realize that.
> >> 
> 
> > I guess by multi-path routing you mean
> 
> > http://www.openbsd.org/faq/faq6.html#Multipath
> 
> Yes, but I never got around to try OpenBSD's multipath routing, I tried
> FreeBSD's recently committed ECMP support[1], but it never worked as expected
> for me. I'd two DSLs at work from same ISP who provides PPPoE connection with
> same remote endpoint set in all connections[2]. FreeBSD didn't work for me as
> expected, and I wasn't familiar with OpenBSD that time.
> 
> > Could you please mention one weird fantsy that Linux does better?
>

OpenAFS client doesn't work on FreeBSD. This is from my personal experience. 
Though people in the OpenAFS community are eager to get a stable working client
on FreeBSD. At work I heavily rely on AFS for everything and I certainly can't 
use FreeBSD for this, all I would get is panics.
 
> Policy based routing combined with multiple routing tables containing
> multipath routes.
> 
> In OpenBSD, you can achieve this using pf's 'route-to', but that's firewall
> and not routing table. In FreeBSD, this has been possible recently with FIB
> support it got, but to use it, you've to use ipfw(8), and not pf(8) :( .
> 
> And, there was not any FreeBSD release since 5.4-BETA3 (my zeroth release)
> which never panic'd for me, and whereas not every GNU/Linux kernel update
> panic'd for me.
>

Maybe you should switch back to 5.4-BETA3 :P 
Well most of the panics are due to SMPing the kernel. Deadlocks and stuff are 
hard to detect. Maybe we should write a new event based kernel in javascript 
:P
 
> Anyways, BSDs and GNU/Linux both have there pros/cons and both are under
> development. And IMHO, badmouthing them without proper citations is same as
> bullshitting.
> 
> >>> If you guys are planning to java
> >>>> development and stuff, I would say BSDs are a bad choice.
> >> 
> >>> kindly elicit on this.
> >> 
> >> Because no JVM vendor officially supports Java on BSDs, even though there 
> >> is
> >> an agreement between FreeBSD Foundation and Sun Microsystems[2] regarding 
> >> Java
> >> but it's not clear about the support. But most of things work just fine.
> >> 
> 
> > Hear some thing similar
> 
> > http://marc.info/?l=openbsd-misc&m=120524299726052&w=2
> 
> Thanks for the link. I didn't know there are people running Java in production
> on BSDs. It's nice.
> 
> References:
> [1]  http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/cvs-src/2008-April/089956.html
> [2]  
> http://groups.google.com/group/comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc/browse_thread/thread/3d3aa040e55ee121/
> 
> Thanks
> -- 
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