> What would people say about moving things over to codeberg? Savannah
   > is entierly unusable, and the FSF admins are not interesting in doing
   > anything.

   I consider codeberg for some projects.  I have many projects that are
   dual savannah + gitlab (to get to functionality that doesn't really work
   on savannah).  It is a really time consuming task to switch or maintain
   both systems, so I sometimes wish I didn't do it, but the end results
   are rewarding.  It is also not crystal clear exactly which features to
   use from which site, and for different projects (libidn, libidn2,
   oath-toolkit, gsasl etc) I ended up with different trade-offs.

   I dislike the confrontational approach to MOVE things from savannah, but
   I see no problem having additional "inetutils" projects on any other
   site if there is anyone using that site who is interested in helping
   inetutils, and if there are any useful result for the inetutils from
   being on that site.  This can be gitlab (like we use for CI/CD which to
   me is critical to have any confidence of the release tarballs),
   codeberg, github or whatever.

I've stepped down as maintainer for inetutils (essentially for the
issues that have been a plauge here, and neither RMS nor the FSF have
tried to addressed, to the point where other tasks have been entierly
ignored), but if a provider, service, whatever you wish to call it is
not capable of providing basic features working, considering a change
is something that can be considered confrontational.  FSF infra has
been having immense issues, with no solution in sight (that is from
internal, and external communication_ -- this affects the whole GNU
project, not just GNU inetutils which is just a speck.

Only today, all GNU and FSF infra was down for +48 hours -- I did not
count, neither does the FSF, nor do they provide any idea of how often
things are non-functioning.  And there is no communication about it.

Codeberg sounds like an idea, I'm happy that you're looking into it.
Github is not a serious consideration -- they requires non-free
software to login.

   I wouldn't consider this any official action, and I don't speak for the
   InetUtils project, this is just a toy experiment to learn.

Would you like to be a maintainer for GNU inetutils? Sergey is mostly
MIA in the context of inetutils.


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