> Ah balls, I thought it was gonna be fine :( very sorry Sorry for the inconvenience, and thanks for this updated e-mail! Please add the most important parts of your findings to the corresponding issue
https://gitlab.com/lilypond/lilypond/-/issues/6776 For completeness you might also reference your e-mails as found in the list archive, for example https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/bug-lilypond/2025-11/msg00014.html > I'm disinclined to believe Petrucci ever did 32nd notes bc they > would honestly look kinda fugly with that tall-ass flag, unless he > did them something like the proof-of-concept-esque thing I threw > together in inkscape in 5 minutes to theorise what we could do if we > have to make up a glyph ourselves (forgive my use of "we"): > > [image: image.png] This looks very nice, thanks! > The rest of the e-mail was just me suggesting a neo-mensural flag > style to have smth more solid for neo-mensural [...] Please open an issue in our tracker and present your findings and suggestions. However, [...] > Anyway all the samples were from here > https://ks15.imslp.org/files/imglnks/usimg/0/01/IMSLP107012-PMLP218008-apollosbanquet_5th_ed_1.pdf > and p. 8 is particularly good. [...] I think these flags are not suited for a 'neomensural' style, to be used in incipits in modern editions. To be honest, I consider them as rather ugly. For me, they represent just another flag style from this typesetting era. Of course, the main question is what flag style should actually be used for 'neomensural'. For me, something based on the Petrucci flags look most elegant. It might be interesting to check what other, modern editions with overall good typography use for flags in incipits (probably from an edition created before computer typesetting) – I fear that a search on IMSLP won't work; this is rather a music library job. The most difficult thing of course is to find an incipit that actually contains two-flag glyphs... If I find some time I'll visit the Mozarteum library in Salzburg for complete editions of composers from that era. But maybe you are quicker than me :-) Werner
