*u-fischer* left a comment (latex3/tagging-project#1491)
<https://github.com/latex3/tagging-project/issues/1491#issuecomment-5069856482>
@charlesstaats these email-cc on the github are a bit confusing ;-).
But if they want to use the alt-key even with older LaTeX they only need to
define the keys with some dummy commands:
~~~~
\usepackage{keyval}
\makeatletter
\define@key{Gin}{alt}{}
\define@key{Gin}{actualtext}{}
\define@key{Gin}{artifact}{}
\makeatother
\usepackage{graphicx}
~~~~
>From what I understood from the input shown by David (`@center
@image{./flowchartdemo,www,hhh,a flowchart}` ), I think that the
`actualtext` option would be difficult to use as the input doesn't make
the distinction. But it would be good if an existing non-empty alternative
text is at least added as `alt={text}`, and if an empty or missing
alternative text is mapped to the key `artifact`.
On Fri, Jul 24, 2026 at 5:24 AM Patrice Dumas <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Fri, Jul 24, 2026 at 01:03:45PM +0100, Gavin Smith wrote:
> > You haven't explained why any of that is important.
> >
> > I feel that this discussion is missing important context, such as what an
> > "accessible" document is, why it is important, and how you would check if
> > a document is "accessible" or not.
>
> I think that it is the same as accessibility in other context, to
> generate PDF that people can use even without being able to see, for
> example.
>
> I think that it is a worthy objective in itself, as long as it
> integrates well with texi2any/Texinfo. Both for alt for images and for
> the pdftitle (which I interpret as something like settitle), this
> fits well and seems relevant.
>
> > I don't understand why a
> > problem with texi2any output is being discussed on a LaTeX bug tracker
> > in the first place, as that would seem not to be the responsibility of
> > the LaTeX project in the first place.
>
> That's because the LaTeX project people generate LaTeX from Texinfo for
> the asymptote manual, which is in Texinfo and try to have the PDF
> obtained from this LaTeX be accessible according to some checker.
> I think that it is interesting feedback, because the people in the
> tracker can read and understand the LaTeX code generated by texi2any,
> figure out why the PDF generated from it is not accessible according to
> the tool they use and give feedback on what should be fixed, texi2any
> LaTeX output, or LaTex, for instance.
>
> Charles forwarded the discussion here with the purprose of having
> texi2any changed, which looks good to me.
>
> --
> Pat
>
