+David Carlisle. (Ulrike has not made her email address public on Github.) On Fri, Jul 24, 2026 at 6:54 AM Charles Staats <[email protected]> wrote:
> *u-fischer* left a comment (latex3/tagging-project#1491) > <https://github.com/latex3/tagging-project/issues/1491#issuecomment-5069856482> > > @charlesstaats these email-cc on the github are a bit confusing ;-). > > But if they want to use the alt-key even with older LaTeX they only need > to define the keys with some dummy commands: > > ~~~~ > \usepackage{keyval} > \makeatletter > \define@key{Gin}{alt}{} > \define@key{Gin}{actualtext}{} > \define@key{Gin}{artifact}{} > \makeatother > \usepackage{graphicx} > ~~~~ > > From what I understood from the input shown by David (`@center > @image{./flowchartdemo,www,hhh,a flowchart}` ), I think that the > `actualtext` option would be difficult to use as the input doesn't make > the distinction. But it would be good if an existing non-empty alternative > text is at least added as `alt={text}`, and if an empty or missing > alternative text is mapped to the key `artifact`. > > > On Fri, Jul 24, 2026 at 5:24 AM Patrice Dumas <[email protected]> wrote: > >> On Fri, Jul 24, 2026 at 01:03:45PM +0100, Gavin Smith wrote: >> > You haven't explained why any of that is important. >> > >> > I feel that this discussion is missing important context, such as what >> an >> > "accessible" document is, why it is important, and how you would check >> if >> > a document is "accessible" or not. >> >> I think that it is the same as accessibility in other context, to >> generate PDF that people can use even without being able to see, for >> example. >> >> I think that it is a worthy objective in itself, as long as it >> integrates well with texi2any/Texinfo. Both for alt for images and for >> the pdftitle (which I interpret as something like settitle), this >> fits well and seems relevant. >> >> > I don't understand why a >> > problem with texi2any output is being discussed on a LaTeX bug tracker >> > in the first place, as that would seem not to be the responsibility of >> > the LaTeX project in the first place. >> >> That's because the LaTeX project people generate LaTeX from Texinfo for >> the asymptote manual, which is in Texinfo and try to have the PDF >> obtained from this LaTeX be accessible according to some checker. >> I think that it is interesting feedback, because the people in the >> tracker can read and understand the LaTeX code generated by texi2any, >> figure out why the PDF generated from it is not accessible according to >> the tool they use and give feedback on what should be fixed, texi2any >> LaTeX output, or LaTex, for instance. >> >> Charles forwarded the discussion here with the purprose of having >> texi2any changed, which looks good to me. >> >> -- >> Pat >> >
