I took the version of shokidoki on your website, the x64 one (as I'm on
amd64).
And for sjaakii I run it without the -fUCI option (first I wasn't aware of
this, but I finally understood ^_^). I was surprised too it didn't work
when I change the -uxiAdapter and the -adapterCommand lines.
I didn't try the process for Stockfish, but I'm going to...
(And thanks a lot for all.)
Le jeu. 11 juil. 2019 à 11:35, <h.g.mul...@hccnet.nl> a écrit :
> Op Do, 11 juli, 2019 11:06 am schreef Sam Daille:
> > I made few trials and I discovered :
> >
> >
> > * that shokidoki certainly had a compilation problem : when I entered it
> > in the prompt command, it's unknown, unlike gpshsogi (my ubuntu is
> xenial,
> > 16, which is far from 10) ;
>
> Which version of Shokidoki are you using anyway (i.e. from where did you
> obtain it)?
> >
> >
> > * that gpsshogi can't be opened step by step as you suggested (when I put
> > usi, it says usi, and so on) ;
>
> That is bad; if you cannot even run it from the command line, it will
> certainly not run under XBoard.
>
> >
> > * that sjaakii don't work when I change the lines in .xboardrc (so maybe
> > I
> > did a wrong thing ; the other engines don't work, but I expected it) ;
>
> You mean the -adapterCommand and -uxiAdapter lines? This should not affect
> Sjaak II at all. At least, I hope that you do not include the -fUSI option
> when you run Sjaak II; the command should be "xboard -fcp sjaakii".
>
> >
> > * that (which may explain my problems) polyglot wasn't installed on my
> > computer...
>
> That can explain your previous problems with Stockfish, but not with any
> of the Shogi engines, as Polyglot is completely useless for Shogi.
> Furthermore, after you changed the -adapterCommand from 'polyglot -noini
> ...' to something else, XBoard would never try to use Polyglot; the only
> reason it would ever try to start Polyglot is that it is mentioned as
> -adapterCommand, and that the engine is flagged as needing an adapter
> through the -fUCI option.
>
> We did not discuss that previously, but the same testing methodology
> applies: first try to run Stockfish from the command line through the
> command "stockfish", and then type "uci" to it to see if it responds with
> (eventually) "uciok". When that works try to run it through UCI2WB through
> the command "uci2wb debug stockfish", and type to it
>
> xboard
> protover 2
> post
> memory 64
> new
> level 40 5 0
> time 10000
> go
>
> and see if it starts thinking. Only if that works you can expect it to
> work under XBoard through the command "xboard -fcp stockfish -fUCI" (if
> the -adapterCommand is also set correctly).
>
> >
> > So I'm going to try again with polyglot installed, and I'll say if it
> > works (I hope).
> >
> >
> > Le mer. 10 juil. 2019 à 10:02, <h.g.mul...@hccnet.nl> a écrit :
> >
> >
> >> Op Wo, 10 juli, 2019 8:27 am schreef Sam Daille:
> >>
> >>> Thanks, I misunderstood the UCI/USI problem, now it's clearer.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> I installed uci2wb (and sjaakii and shokidoki), but the problem
> >>> remains : when I changed the lines -adapterCommand -uxiAdapter on my
> >>> .xboardrc (by
> >>> the prompt command or in hand), gpshsogi or shokidoki don't work (but
> >>> sjakii work without this change, and it plays better than gnushogi
> >>> indeed ^_^).
> >>>
> >>
> >> OK, one thing at the time...
> >>
> >>
> >> It is strange that Shokidoki doesn't work; this is not a USI engine, so
> >> the adapter commands should not matter for it, and you should be able
> >> to run it simply by "xboard -fcp shokidoki" from the command line (if
> >> the shokidoki binary is installed in a directory that is in your path,
> >> like /usr/local/bin/), or "xboard -fcp ./shokidoki" if it is in the
> >> current directory. Like sjaakii.
> >>
> >> Shokidoki is closed source, so I only distribute the binary, which I
> >> compiled on my own Linux VM. Problem might be that this was an Ubuntu
> >> 10.04 machine, and that this is now so outdated that binaries from
> >> there so not work anymore on recent Ubuntus. Perhaps you could try to
> >> run it from the command line directly (i.e. wiythout XBoard), through
> >> "./shokidoki", and then type
> >>
> >>
> >> xboard protover 2
> >>
> >> to see if and how it responds?
> >>
> >>
> >> For GPS Shogi the same problem could apply. So the first step here
> >> would also be to try to run it from the command line, thoughe the
> >> command "gpsshogi". (Or perhaps "./gpsshogi", depending on where it was
> >> installed. I will assume in the following that the required command is
> >> simply "gpsshogi".) If it starts you should type the line
> >>
> >>
> >> usi
> >>
> >> to it, and see if it responds by printing some "option name ..." lines
> >> followed by "usiok". And after that type "isready", to which it should
> >> respond with "readyok".
> >>
> >> If this works the next step would be to test it in combination with
> >> UCI2WB, through the command "uci2wb -s gpsshogi .", and type
> >>
> >>
> >> xboard protover 2
> >>
> >> This should make it print a number of 'feature' lines ending with
> >> "feature
> >> done=1". Typing
> >>
> >> post memory 64 new variant shogi level 40 5 0 time 10000 go
> >>
> >> to it should set it thinking, and finally print a move.
> >>
> >> If this does work the problem must be in the interaction with XBoard.
> >> To
> >> fiugure that out, first change the -uxiAdapter in the .xboardrc file to
> >>
> >> -uxiAdapter {uci2wb debug -%variant "%fcp" "%fd"}
> >>
> >>
> >> and start XBoard with the command
> >>
> >> xboard -variant shogi -fcp gpsshogi -fUSI -debug
> >>
> >> The inclusion of the extra 'debug' options should make UCI2WB report
> >> everything it does to XBoard, and make XBoard save all communication
> >> with UCI2WB on a file xboard.debug in the current directory. If things
> >> get stuck, just quit XBoard and attach that file to the e-mail so I can
> >> see what is going on.
> >>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> I noticed that in the .xboardrc there wasn't first an -uxiAdapter
> >>> line, so maybe this line is useless ? Or maybe there is another
> >>> problem in the settings ?
> >>
> >> The -uxiAdapter setting specifies which command XBoard should issue for
> >> an engine that was accompanied by the option -fUSI / -sUSI. Where words
> >> starting with '%' refer to the value of the XBoard option with the
> >> corresponding name. XBoard has no hard-coded default for this, so if it
> >> was not set to a value in the master settings file, it will be defined
> >> as empty string, and the -fUSI/-sUSI option (and USI/UCCI checkbox in
> >> the menu dialog, which add that option) would not work. This was
> >> originally the case, as the .xboardrc you mailed me contained
> >>
> >> -adapterCommand 'polyglot -noini -ec "%fcp" -ed "%fd" -uci
> >> NalimovCache=%defaultCacheSizeEGTB -pg ShowTbHits=true'
> >> -uxiAdapter ""
> >>
> >>
> >> which has it as an empty string. From the point-of-view of Ubuntu
> >> package distribution that makes sense, as when you have not installed
> >> UCI2WB yet
> >> it could not work anyway. Ideally installing of UCI2WB would
> >> automatically set the -uxiAdapter in XBoard's settings to use it (as in
> >> theory there could be other USI adapters that you could have installed
> >> instead). The UCI2WB install procedure might not be smart enough to do
> >> that, though. This is why I wrote you should check it first.
> >>
> >>
> >> You can see that originally the -adapterCommand (used for engines that
> >> specify -fUCI) originally was set to use Polyglot, which is a Chess-only
> >> adapter for UCI (and should also be installed as a separate Ubuntu
> >> package before the -fUCI option can work). UCI2WB should be able to do
> >> the job as well, though, but there is no harm in having both UCI2WB and
> >> Polyglot on
> >> your system, so there isn't really any need to change -adapterCommand as
> >> long as you have Polyglot installed. This pertains to the problem of
> >> running Stockfish.
> >>
> >>>
> >>> I joined you a copy of my .xboardrc, it may help.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Le mar. 9 juil. 2019 à 17:43, <h.g.mul...@hccnet.nl> a écrit :
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> Neither Stockfish nor GPS Shogi support XBoard protocol; they can
> >>>> only be used on XBoard with the aid of an adapter. Stockfish
> >>>> communicates in UCI,
> >>>> and GPS Shogi in USI. The UCI2WB adapter can handle both these
> >>>> protocols. So to use these engines you have to
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> 1) install uci2wb on your computer,
> >>>> 2) make sure xboard is configured to use UCI2WB as adapter rather
> >>>> than Polyglot,
> >>>> 3) use the -fUCI or -fUSI options when starting XBoard from the
> >>>> command line, (e.g. "xboard -fcp stockfish -fUCI"), or tick the UCI
> >>>> or USI/UCCI checkbox when you embed the engine through the Load
> >>>> Engine dialog.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> To make sure step (2) is realized you could open the .xboardrc file
> >>>> (where
> >>>> the user settings for XBoard are saved) in your home directory with
> >>>> a text editor, and look at the value of the -adapterCommand and
> >>>> -uxiAdapter. The
> >>>> value for these should be
> >>>>
> >>>> -adapterCommand {uci2wb "%fcp" "%fd"}
> >>>> -uxiAdapter {uci2wb -%variant "%fcp" "%fd"}
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Only if this would not work there would be a genuine problem.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Note that GNUshogi is so buggy that it plays like total crap, and
> >>>> can randomly decide to overlook even mate in 1. There are a number
> >>>> of engines that are able to play decent Shogi on XBoard without
> >>>> adapter, though; in order of increasing strength these are Sjaak II,
> >>>> CrazyWa,
> >>>> Shokidoki and
> >>>> Bonanza (the XBoard version in my on-line repository
> >>>> http://hgm.nubati.net/cgi-bin/gitweb.cgi ). I am not sure the latter
> >>>> would be weaker than GPS Shogi.
> >>>>
> >>>> Op Di, 9 juli, 2019 5:09 pm schreef Sam Daille:
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>> Hello.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I'm on Ubuntu Xenial and I installed Xboard to play chess and
> >>>>> shogi, but :
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> * Gpsshogi don't work (it never plays) when I open Xboard with it
> >>>>> (-variant
> >>>>> shogi -fcp gpsshogi)
> >>>>>
> >>>>> * Stockfish don't work when I open xboard with it (-fcp
> >>>>> stockfish), it don't want to play and exit when I try to force it
> >>>>> to move now, but this bug is well-known :
> >>>>> http://savannah.gnu.org/bugs/?56024
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I tried to limit the reflexion time and to change the size of the
> >>>>> board, but no way.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Do you have some ideas to suggest to me ? I'm ready to try
> >>>>> anything (because Gnushogi on Xshogi is really to weak for me...)
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Thanks a lot.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Sam
> >>>>> _______________________________________________
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> >>>>> https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/bug-xboard
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
>
>
>
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