Hello.
I've almost forgotten to tell you I solved my problem this WE.
It was obvious, but I didn't see it it : when I changed the -uxiAdapter
line in the .xboardrc, I forgot to put the final } on a second line. When I
finally did it, all worked : sjaakii and stockfish (with polyglot) ;
gpsshogi with your method ; shokidoki after unzipping it with your
method. (I didn't compile Bonanza yet, but I suppose it will work without
problems.) These 3 engines shogi are indeed better than gpsshogi... ^_^
I'd just have a new question : is it possible to switch occidental icons on
Xboard to japanese ones ?
(There is the solution to use xshogi, but it works only with gpsshogi, and
I didn't know if the process really works : xshogi -debug True -fsp
/usr/games/gpsshogi)
Le ven. 12 juil. 2019 à 16:53, Sam Daille <samdai...@gmail.com> a écrit :
> OK, I will try like this for gpsshogi. And for shokidoki, I already
> noticed that if I run it in prompt command, it says to me "no access", so I
> supposed if I unzip it with your method it will work. I'll tell you as soon
> as possible (probably on Tuesday, I have a busy WE which is waiting for me.
> ^_^)
>
> Le ven. 12 juil. 2019 à 14:29, <h.g.mul...@hccnet.nl> a écrit :
>
>> I made some progress myself: I installed the 'gpsshogi' package on my
>> Ubuntu 18.10, and indeed it is as I now suspected: it is 'gpsusi' that is
>> the USI engine. The 'gpsshogi' is the xShogi-compatible version.
>>
>> I managed to run it (after installing UCI2WB and setting -uxiAdapter
>> {uci2wb -%variant "%fcp" "%fd"} in ~/.xboardrc) with the following
>> command:
>>
>> xboard -fcp gpsusi -fUSI -variant shogi
>>
>> (It is important XBoard is set to Shogi when it starts UCI2WB + GPS Shogi,
>> as this determines whether UCI2WB will work in USI mode or in UCI mode.
>> Hence you should already specify the variant on the command line when you
>> also specify the engine on the command line. If you start XBoard
>> separately, and then Load GPS Shogi through the Load Engine menu dialog,
>> use New Variant to set it to Shogi first, and tick the USI/UCCI and the
>> 'Force current variant with this engine' checkboxes.)
>>
>> Also be sure to use a sudden-death time control ('incremental' with
>> increment = 0), as GPS Shogi is not fully USI compliant, and will crash in
>> any other time control. (That is, it will print an error message about
>> unknown time specification on the 'go' command, and then exit.)
>>
>> Op Vr, 12 juli, 2019 12:38 pm schreef Sam Daille:
>> > I had the 4.8.0-2 version of Xboard, and I must have installed it with a
>> > sudo apt-get install command. Maybe I could try to change the line
>> > -uxiAdapter for the basic one (as the uc2wb don't work) ?
>> >
>> >
>> > My last trials : gtockfish run on the command line, and it works
>> > perfectly with Polyglot.on xboard (as sjaakii).
>> >
>> > gpshogi run on the command line, but then as I said when I enter usi it
>> > just reply usi and so on, without any indications. I had forgotten to
>> > ,tell
>> > you, but in the /usr/games/ there is, with gpsshogi, a gpsviewer and a
>> > gpsusi - can it disturb the uc2wb ?
>> >
>> > (I didn't try yet to open shokidoki with ./shokidoki-x64 after
>> > re-installing it, I'll do this this weekend... And maybe I'll try to
>> > compile Bonanza too.)
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Le ven. 12 juil. 2019 à 10:52, <h.g.mul...@hccnet.nl> a écrit :
>> >
>> >
>> >> I still have one question: which version of XBoard are you using (in
>> >> Help
>> >> -> About)? I have been looking at the installation script of UCI2WB,
>> >> because it puzzled me that your setting for -uxiAdapter originally was
>> >> an empty string, even though you had installed UCI2WB. (So that
>> >> hand-editing of .xboardrc was needed.)
>> >>
>> >> It turned out the install script of UCI2WB indeed is flawed (it sets
>> >> the -uxiAdapter in the user settings of 'root' instead of yours,
>> because
>> >> the install will be done through the 'sudo' command). But that should
>> >> not have mattered, as any recent XBoard should already have been
>> >> pre-configured to use UCI2WB as -uxiAdapter, (through the accompanying
>> >> master settings file xboard.conf, which should be in /etc, /etc/xboard
>> >> or /usr/local/etc depending on how you installed XBoard), even if you
>> >> have not installed UCI2WB at all.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Op Do, 11 juli, 2019 2:25 pm schreef Sam Daille:
>> >>
>> >>> I'll try all this, but I wonder if I had the same problem with
>> >>> another interface like tagua ?
>> >>>
>> >>> Le jeu. 11 juil. 2019 à 13:57, <h.g.mul...@hccnet.nl> a écrit :
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>> Oh, I was a bit wrong in my previous message. It appears I actually
>> >>>> did compile Bonanza on Ubuntu 10.04. And the required command is
>> >>>>
>> >>>> make gcc
>> >>>>
>> >>>> not just "make". And you should make sure you take the latest
>> >>>> snapshot of the 'test' branch of the repository, not the 'main'
>> >>>> branch, which is initially displayed. (The latter holds the original
>> >>>> Bonanza source I
>> >>>> used as a starting point.)
>> >>>>
>> >>>> I just pushed a new commit to that 'test' branch, as although
>> >>>> compiling worked on Ubuntu 10.04, it no longer did on Ubuntu 18.10.
>> >>>> This was due
>> >>>> to the required libraries being mentioned near the start of the
>> >>>> compile command, rather than at the end. After I changed that it
>> >>>> also compiles on Ubuntu 18.10. It does give a few bogus warnings in
>> >>>> the file csa.c (which
>> >>>> contains code that would not be executed if you use it as an XBoard
>> >>>> engine). Just ignore those.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Op Do, 11 juli, 2019 11:34 am schreef Sam Daille:
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>> I have forgotten one thing : if you can explain me how to compil
>> >>>>> Bonanza
>> >>>>> using the files on your website, it will be nice of you. At first
>> >>>>> sight, it seems complicated to me...
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> Le jeu. 11 juil. 2019 à 11:06, Sam Daille <samdai...@gmail.com>
>> >>>>> a écrit
>> >>>>> :
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>> I made few trials and I discovered :
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> * that shokidoki certainly had a compilation problem : when I
>> >>>>>> entered it in the prompt command, it's unknown, unlike gpshsogi
>> >>>>>> (my
>> >>>>>> ubuntu is xenial, 16, which is far from 10) ;
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> * that gpsshogi can't be opened step by step as you suggested
>> >>>>>> (when
>> >>>>>> I
>> >>>>>> put usi, it says usi, and so on) ;
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> * that sjaakii don't work when I change the lines in .xboardrc
>> >>>>>> (so
>> >>>>>> maybe I did a wrong thing ; the other engines don't work, but I
>> >>>>>> expected it) ;
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> * that (which may explain my problems) polyglot wasn't
>> >>>>>> installed on my computer...
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> So I'm going to try again with polyglot installed, and I'll say
>> >>>>>> if it works (I hope).
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> Le mer. 10 juil. 2019 à 10:02, <h.g.mul...@hccnet.nl> a écrit
>> >>>>>> :
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> Op Wo, 10 juli, 2019 8:27 am schreef Sam Daille:
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> Thanks, I misunderstood the UCI/USI problem, now it's
>> >>>>>>>> clearer.
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> I installed uci2wb (and sjaakii and shokidoki), but the
>> >>>>>>>> problem remains
>> >>>>>>> :
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> when I changed the lines -adapterCommand -uxiAdapter on my
>> >>>>>>>> .xboardrc
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> (by
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> the prompt command or in hand), gpshsogi or shokidoki don't
>> >>>>>>>> work (but sjakii work without this change, and it plays
>> >>>>>>>> better than gnushogi
>> >>>>>>> indeed
>> >>>>>>>> ^_^).
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> OK, one thing at the time...
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> It is strange that Shokidoki doesn't work; this is not a USI
>> >>>>>>> engine, so the adapter commands should not matter for it, and
>> >>>>>>> you should be able to run it simply by "xboard -fcp shokidoki"
>> >>>>>>> from the command line (if the shokidoki binary is installed in
>> >>>>>>> a directory that is in your path, like /usr/local/bin/), or
>> >>>>>>> "xboard -fcp ./shokidoki" if it is in
>> >>>>>>> the current directory. Like sjaakii.
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> Shokidoki is closed source, so I only distribute the binary,
>> >>>>>>> which I compiled on my own Linux VM. Problem might be that
>> >>>>>>> this was an Ubuntu 10.04 machine, and that this is now so
>> >>>>>>> outdated that binaries from there so not work anymore on
>> >>>>>>> recent Ubuntus. Perhaps you could try to run it from the
>> >>>>>>> command line directly (i.e. wiythout XBoard), through
>> >>>>>>> "./shokidoki", and then type
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> xboard protover 2
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> to see if and how it responds?
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> For GPS Shogi the same problem could apply. So the first step
>> >>>>>>> here would also be to try to run it from the command line,
>> >>>>>>> thoughe the command "gpsshogi". (Or perhaps "./gpsshogi",
>> >>>>>>> depending on where it was installed. I will assume in the
>> >>>>>>> following that the required command is simply "gpsshogi".) If
>> >>>>>>> it starts you should type the line
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> usi
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> to it, and see if it responds by printing some "option name
>> >>>>>>> ..."
>> >>>>>>> lines followed by "usiok". And after that type "isready", to
>> >>>>>>> which it should respond with "readyok".
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> If this works the next step would be to test it in
>> >>>>>>> combination with UCI2WB, through the command "uci2wb -s
>> >>>>>>> gpsshogi .", and type
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> xboard protover 2
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> This should make it print a number of 'feature' lines ending
>> >>>>>>> with "feature
>> >>>>>>> done=1". Typing
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> post memory 64 new variant shogi level 40 5 0 time 10000 go
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> to it should set it thinking, and finally print a move.
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> If this does work the problem must be in the interaction with
>> >>>>>>> XBoard.
>> >>>>>>> To
>> >>>>>>> fiugure that out, first change the -uxiAdapter in the
>> >>>>>>> .xboardrc
>> >>>>>>> file to
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> -uxiAdapter {uci2wb debug -%variant "%fcp" "%fd"}
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> and start XBoard with the command
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> xboard -variant shogi -fcp gpsshogi -fUSI -debug
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> The inclusion of the extra 'debug' options should make UCI2WB
>> >>>>>>> report everything it does to XBoard, and make XBoard save
>> >>>>>>> all communication with UCI2WB on a file xboard.debug in the
>> >>>>>>> current directory. If things get stuck, just quit XBoard and
>> >>>>>>> attach that file to the e-mail so I can see what is going on.
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> I noticed that in the .xboardrc there wasn't first an
>> >>>>>>>> -uxiAdapter
>> >>>>>>>> line, so maybe this line is useless ? Or maybe there is
>> >>>>>>>> another problem in the settings ?
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> The -uxiAdapter setting specifies which command XBoard should
>> >>>>>>> issue for an engine that was accompanied by the option -fUSI
>> >>>>>>> /
>> >>>>>>> -sUSI. Where
>> >>>>>>> words starting with '%' refer to the value of the XBoard
>> >>>>>>> option with the corresponding name. XBoard has no hard-coded
>> >>>>>>> default for this, so if it was not set to a value in the
>> >>>>>>> master settings file, it will be defined as empty string, and
>> >>>>>>> the -fUSI/-sUSI option (and USI/UCCI
>> >>>>>>> checkbox in the menu dialog, which add that option) would not
>> >>>>>>> work. This was originally the case, as the .xboardrc you
>> >>>>>>> mailed me contained
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> -adapterCommand 'polyglot -noini -ec "%fcp" -ed "%fd" -uci
>> >>>>>>> NalimovCache=%defaultCacheSizeEGTB -pg ShowTbHits=true'
>> >>>>>>> -uxiAdapter ""
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> which has it as an empty string. From the point-of-view of
>> >>>>>>> Ubuntu
>> >>>>>>> package distribution that makes sense, as when you have not
>> >>>>>>> installed UCI2WB yet it could not work anyway. Ideally
>> >>>>>>> installing of UCI2WB would automatically set the -uxiAdapter
>> >>>>>>> in XBoard's settings to use it (as
>> >>>>>>> in theory there could be other USI adapters that you could
>> >>>>>>> have installed instead). The UCI2WB install procedure might
>> >>>>>>> not be smart enough to do that, though. This is why I wrote
>> >>>>>>> you should check it first.
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> You can see that originally the -adapterCommand (used for
>> >>>>>>> engines that specify -fUCI) originally was set to use
>> >>>>>>> Polyglot, which is
>> >>>>>>> a Chess-only adapter for UCI (and should also be installed as a
>> >>>>>>> separate Ubuntu package before the -fUCI option can work).
>> >>>>>>> UCI2WB should be able
>> >>>>>>> to do the job as well, though, but there is no harm in having
>> >>>>>>> both UCI2WB
>> >>>>>>> and Polyglot on your system, so there isn't really any need to
>> >>>>>>> change -adapterCommand as long as you have Polyglot
>> >>>>>>> installed. This pertains to the problem of running Stockfish.
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> I joined you a copy of my .xboardrc, it may help.
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> Le mar. 9 juil. 2019 à 17:43, <h.g.mul...@hccnet.nl> a
>> >>>>>>>> écrit
>> >>>>>>>> :
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>> Neither Stockfish nor GPS Shogi support XBoard protocol;
>> >>>>>>>>> they can only be used on XBoard with the aid of an
>> >>>>>>>>> adapter. Stockfish
>> >>>>>>>>> communicates in UCI, and GPS Shogi in USI. The UCI2WB
>> >>>>>>>>> adapter can handle both these protocols. So to use these
>> >>>>>>>>> engines you have to
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>> 1) install uci2wb on your computer,
>> >>>>>>>>> 2) make sure xboard is configured to use UCI2WB as adapter
>> >>>>>>>>> rather than Polyglot, 3) use the -fUCI or -fUSI options
>> >>>>>>>>> when starting XBoard from the command line, (e.g. "xboard
>> >>>>>>>>> -fcp
>> >>>>>>>>> stockfish -fUCI"), or tick the UCI or USI/UCCI checkbox
>> >>>>>>>>> when you embed the engine through the Load Engine dialog.
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>> To make sure step (2) is realized you could open the
>> >>>>>>>>> .xboardrc
>> >>>>>>>>> file (where the user settings for XBoard are saved) in
>> >>>>>>>>> your home directory with a text editor, and look at the
>> >>>>>>>>> value of the -adapterCommand and -uxiAdapter. The value
>> >>>>>>>>> for these should be
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>> -adapterCommand {uci2wb "%fcp" "%fd"}
>> >>>>>>>>> -uxiAdapter {uci2wb -%variant "%fcp" "%fd"}
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>> Only if this would not work there would be a genuine
>> >>>>>>>>> problem.
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>> Note that GNUshogi is so buggy that it plays like total
>> >>>>>>>>> crap, and can randomly decide to overlook even mate in 1.
>> >>>>>>>>> There are
>> >>>>>>>>> a number of engines that are able to play decent Shogi on
>> >>>>>>>>> XBoard without
>> >>>>>>>>> adapter, though; in order of increasing strength these are
>> >>>>>>>>> Sjaak
>> >>>>>>>>> II, CrazyWa,
>> >>>>>>>>> Shokidoki and
>> >>>>>>>>> Bonanza (the XBoard version in my on-line repository
>> >>>>>>>>> http://hgm.nubati.net/cgi-bin/gitweb.cgi ). I am not sure
>> >>>>>>>>> the latter would be weaker than GPS Shogi.
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>> Op Di, 9 juli, 2019 5:09 pm schreef Sam Daille:
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>> Hello.
>> >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>> I'm on Ubuntu Xenial and I installed Xboard to play
>> >>>>>>>>>> chess and shogi, but :
>> >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>> * Gpsshogi don't work (it never plays) when I open
>> >>>>>>>>>> Xboard
>> >>>>>>>>>> with it (-variant shogi -fcp gpsshogi)
>> >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>> * Stockfish don't work when I open xboard with it (-fcp
>> >>>>>>>>>> stockfish), it don't want to play and exit when I try
>> >>>>>>>>>> to force it to move now, but this bug is well-known :
>> >>>>>>>>>> http://savannah.gnu.org/bugs/?56024
>> >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>> I tried to limit the reflexion time and to change the
>> >>>>>>>>>> size of the board, but no way.
>> >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>> Do you have some ideas to suggest to me ? I'm ready to
>> >>>>>>>>>> try anything (because Gnushogi on Xshogi is really to
>> >>>>>>>>>> weak for me...)
>> >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>> Thanks a lot.
>> >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>> Sam
>> >>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>> >>>>>>>>>> Bug-XBoard mailing list
>> >>>>>>>>>> Bug-XBoard@gnu.org
>> >>>>>>>>>> https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/bug-xboard
>> >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>
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