I had the 4.8.0-2 version of Xboard, and I must have installed it with a
sudo apt-get install command. Maybe I could try to change the line
-uxiAdapter for the basic one (as the uc2wb don't work) ?
My last trials : gtockfish run on the command line, and it works perfectly
with Polyglot.on xboard (as sjaakii).
gpshogi run on the command line, but then as I said when I enter usi it
just reply usi and so on, without any indications. I had forgotten to ,tell
you, but in the /usr/games/ there is, with gpsshogi, a gpsviewer and a
gpsusi - can it disturb the uc2wb ?
(I didn't try yet to open shokidoki with ./shokidoki-x64 after
re-installing it, I'll do this this weekend... And maybe I'll try to
compile Bonanza too.)
Le ven. 12 juil. 2019 à 10:52, <h.g.mul...@hccnet.nl> a écrit :
> I still have one question: which version of XBoard are you using (in Help
> -> About)? I have been looking at the installation script of UCI2WB,
> because it puzzled me that your setting for -uxiAdapter originally was an
> empty string, even though you had installed UCI2WB. (So that hand-editing
> of .xboardrc was needed.)
>
> It turned out the install script of UCI2WB indeed is flawed (it sets the
> -uxiAdapter in the user settings of 'root' instead of yours, because the
> install will be done through the 'sudo' command). But that should not have
> mattered, as any recent XBoard should already have been pre-configured to
> use UCI2WB as -uxiAdapter, (through the accompanying master settings file
> xboard.conf, which should be in /etc, /etc/xboard or /usr/local/etc
> depending on how you installed XBoard), even if you have not installed
> UCI2WB at all.
>
> Op Do, 11 juli, 2019 2:25 pm schreef Sam Daille:
> > I'll try all this, but I wonder if I had the same problem with another
> > interface like tagua ?
> >
> > Le jeu. 11 juil. 2019 à 13:57, <h.g.mul...@hccnet.nl> a écrit :
> >
> >
> >> Oh, I was a bit wrong in my previous message. It appears I actually did
> >> compile Bonanza on Ubuntu 10.04. And the required command is
> >>
> >> make gcc
> >>
> >> not just "make". And you should make sure you take the latest snapshot
> >> of the 'test' branch of the repository, not the 'main' branch, which is
> >> initially displayed. (The latter holds the original Bonanza source I
> >> used as a starting point.)
> >>
> >> I just pushed a new commit to that 'test' branch, as although compiling
> >> worked on Ubuntu 10.04, it no longer did on Ubuntu 18.10. This was due
> >> to the required libraries being mentioned near the start of the compile
> >> command, rather than at the end. After I changed that it also compiles
> >> on Ubuntu 18.10. It does give a few bogus warnings in the file csa.c
> >> (which
> >> contains code that would not be executed if you use it as an XBoard
> >> engine). Just ignore those.
> >>
> >> Op Do, 11 juli, 2019 11:34 am schreef Sam Daille:
> >>
> >>> I have forgotten one thing : if you can explain me how to compil
> >>> Bonanza
> >>> using the files on your website, it will be nice of you. At first
> >>> sight, it seems complicated to me...
> >>>
> >>> Le jeu. 11 juil. 2019 à 11:06, Sam Daille <samdai...@gmail.com> a
> >>> écrit
> >>> :
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> I made few trials and I discovered :
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> * that shokidoki certainly had a compilation problem : when I
> >>>> entered it in the prompt command, it's unknown, unlike gpshsogi (my
> >>>> ubuntu is xenial, 16, which is far from 10) ;
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> * that gpsshogi can't be opened step by step as you suggested (when
> >>>> I
> >>>> put usi, it says usi, and so on) ;
> >>>>
> >>>> * that sjaakii don't work when I change the lines in .xboardrc (so
> >>>> maybe I did a wrong thing ; the other engines don't work, but I
> >>>> expected it) ;
> >>>>
> >>>> * that (which may explain my problems) polyglot wasn't installed on
> >>>> my computer...
> >>>>
> >>>> So I'm going to try again with polyglot installed, and I'll say if
> >>>> it works (I hope).
> >>>>
> >>>> Le mer. 10 juil. 2019 à 10:02, <h.g.mul...@hccnet.nl> a écrit :
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>> Op Wo, 10 juli, 2019 8:27 am schreef Sam Daille:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> Thanks, I misunderstood the UCI/USI problem, now it's clearer.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> I installed uci2wb (and sjaakii and shokidoki), but the problem
> >>>>>> remains
> >>>>> :
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> when I changed the lines -adapterCommand -uxiAdapter on my
> >>>>>> .xboardrc
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>> (by
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> the prompt command or in hand), gpshsogi or shokidoki don't
> >>>>>> work (but
> >>>>>> sjakii work without this change, and it plays better than
> >>>>>> gnushogi
> >>>>> indeed
> >>>>>> ^_^).
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> OK, one thing at the time...
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> It is strange that Shokidoki doesn't work; this is not a USI
> >>>>> engine, so the adapter commands should not matter for it, and you
> >>>>> should be able to run it simply by "xboard -fcp shokidoki" from
> >>>>> the command line (if the
> >>>>> shokidoki binary is installed in a directory that is in your path,
> >>>>> like /usr/local/bin/), or "xboard -fcp ./shokidoki" if it is in
> >>>>> the current directory. Like sjaakii.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Shokidoki is closed source, so I only distribute the binary,
> >>>>> which I compiled on my own Linux VM. Problem might be that this
> >>>>> was an Ubuntu 10.04 machine, and that this is now so outdated that
> >>>>> binaries from there so not work anymore on recent Ubuntus. Perhaps
> >>>>> you could try to run it from the command line directly (i.e.
> >>>>> wiythout XBoard), through "./shokidoki", and then type
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> xboard protover 2
> >>>>>
> >>>>> to see if and how it responds?
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> For GPS Shogi the same problem could apply. So the first step
> >>>>> here would also be to try to run it from the command line, thoughe
> >>>>> the command "gpsshogi". (Or perhaps "./gpsshogi", depending on
> >>>>> where it was installed. I will assume in the following that the
> >>>>> required command is simply "gpsshogi".) If it starts you should
> >>>>> type the line
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> usi
> >>>>>
> >>>>> to it, and see if it responds by printing some "option name ..."
> >>>>> lines followed by "usiok". And after that type "isready", to
> >>>>> which it should respond with "readyok".
> >>>>>
> >>>>> If this works the next step would be to test it in combination
> >>>>> with UCI2WB, through the command "uci2wb -s gpsshogi .", and type
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> xboard protover 2
> >>>>>
> >>>>> This should make it print a number of 'feature' lines ending with
> >>>>> "feature
> >>>>> done=1". Typing
> >>>>>
> >>>>> post memory 64 new variant shogi level 40 5 0 time 10000 go
> >>>>>
> >>>>> to it should set it thinking, and finally print a move.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> If this does work the problem must be in the interaction with
> >>>>> XBoard.
> >>>>> To
> >>>>> fiugure that out, first change the -uxiAdapter in the .xboardrc
> >>>>> file to
> >>>>>
> >>>>> -uxiAdapter {uci2wb debug -%variant "%fcp" "%fd"}
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> and start XBoard with the command
> >>>>>
> >>>>> xboard -variant shogi -fcp gpsshogi -fUSI -debug
> >>>>>
> >>>>> The inclusion of the extra 'debug' options should make UCI2WB
> >>>>> report everything it does to XBoard, and make XBoard save all
> >>>>> communication with UCI2WB on a file xboard.debug in the current
> >>>>> directory. If things get stuck, just quit XBoard and attach that
> >>>>> file to the e-mail so I can see what is going on.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> I noticed that in the .xboardrc there wasn't first an
> >>>>>> -uxiAdapter
> >>>>>> line, so maybe this line is useless ? Or maybe there is another
> >>>>>> problem in the settings ?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> The -uxiAdapter setting specifies which command XBoard should
> >>>>> issue for an engine that was accompanied by the option -fUSI /
> >>>>> -sUSI. Where
> >>>>> words starting with '%' refer to the value of the XBoard option
> >>>>> with the corresponding name. XBoard has no hard-coded default for
> >>>>> this, so if it was not set to a value in the master settings file,
> >>>>> it will be defined as empty string, and the -fUSI/-sUSI option
> >>>>> (and USI/UCCI
> >>>>> checkbox in the menu dialog, which add that option) would not
> >>>>> work. This was originally
> >>>>> the case, as the .xboardrc you mailed me contained
> >>>>>
> >>>>> -adapterCommand 'polyglot -noini -ec "%fcp" -ed "%fd" -uci
> >>>>> NalimovCache=%defaultCacheSizeEGTB -pg ShowTbHits=true'
> >>>>> -uxiAdapter ""
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> which has it as an empty string. From the point-of-view of Ubuntu
> >>>>> package distribution that makes sense, as when you have not
> >>>>> installed UCI2WB yet
> >>>>> it could not work anyway. Ideally installing of UCI2WB would
> >>>>> automatically set the -uxiAdapter in XBoard's settings to use it
> >>>>> (as
> >>>>> in theory there could be other USI adapters that you could have
> >>>>> installed instead). The UCI2WB install procedure might not be
> >>>>> smart enough to do that, though. This is why I wrote you should
> >>>>> check it first.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> You can see that originally the -adapterCommand (used for engines
> >>>>> that specify -fUCI) originally was set to use Polyglot, which is
> >>>>> a Chess-only
> >>>>> adapter for UCI (and should also be installed as a separate Ubuntu
> >>>>> package before the -fUCI option can work). UCI2WB should be able
> >>>>> to do the job as well, though, but there is no harm in having both
> >>>>> UCI2WB
> >>>>> and Polyglot on your system, so there isn't really any need to
> >>>>> change -adapterCommand as
> >>>>> long as you have Polyglot installed. This pertains to the problem
> >>>>> of running Stockfish.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> I joined you a copy of my .xboardrc, it may help.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Le mar. 9 juil. 2019 à 17:43, <h.g.mul...@hccnet.nl> a écrit
> >>>>>> :
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Neither Stockfish nor GPS Shogi support XBoard protocol; they
> >>>>>>> can only be used on XBoard with the aid of an adapter.
> >>>>>>> Stockfish
> >>>>>>> communicates in UCI, and GPS Shogi in USI. The UCI2WB adapter
> >>>>>>> can handle both these protocols. So to use these engines you
> >>>>>>> have to
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> 1) install uci2wb on your computer,
> >>>>>>> 2) make sure xboard is configured to use UCI2WB as adapter
> >>>>>>> rather than Polyglot, 3) use the -fUCI or -fUSI options when
> >>>>>>> starting XBoard from the command line, (e.g. "xboard -fcp
> >>>>>>> stockfish -fUCI"), or tick the UCI or USI/UCCI
> >>>>>>> checkbox when you embed the engine through the Load Engine
> >>>>>>> dialog.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> To make sure step (2) is realized you could open the
> >>>>>>> .xboardrc
> >>>>>>> file (where the user settings for XBoard are saved) in your
> >>>>>>> home directory with a text editor, and look at the value of
> >>>>>>> the -adapterCommand and -uxiAdapter. The value for these should
> >>>>>>> be
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> -adapterCommand {uci2wb "%fcp" "%fd"}
> >>>>>>> -uxiAdapter {uci2wb -%variant "%fcp" "%fd"}
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Only if this would not work there would be a genuine problem.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Note that GNUshogi is so buggy that it plays like total crap,
> >>>>>>> and can randomly decide to overlook even mate in 1. There are
> >>>>>>> a number of engines that are able to play decent Shogi on
> >>>>>>> XBoard without
> >>>>>>> adapter, though; in order of increasing strength these are
> >>>>>>> Sjaak
> >>>>>>> II, CrazyWa,
> >>>>>>> Shokidoki and
> >>>>>>> Bonanza (the XBoard version in my on-line repository
> >>>>>>> http://hgm.nubati.net/cgi-bin/gitweb.cgi ). I am not sure the
> >>>>>>> latter would be weaker than GPS Shogi.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Op Di, 9 juli, 2019 5:09 pm schreef Sam Daille:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Hello.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> I'm on Ubuntu Xenial and I installed Xboard to play chess
> >>>>>>>> and shogi, but :
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> * Gpsshogi don't work (it never plays) when I open Xboard
> >>>>>>>> with it (-variant shogi -fcp gpsshogi)
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> * Stockfish don't work when I open xboard with it (-fcp
> >>>>>>>> stockfish), it don't want to play and exit when I try to
> >>>>>>>> force it to move now, but this bug is well-known :
> >>>>>>>> http://savannah.gnu.org/bugs/?56024
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> I tried to limit the reflexion time and to change the size
> >>>>>>>> of the board, but no way.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Do you have some ideas to suggest to me ? I'm ready to try
> >>>>>>>> anything (because Gnushogi on Xshogi is really to weak for
> >>>>>>>> me...)
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Thanks a lot.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Sam
> >>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
> >>>>>>>> Bug-XBoard mailing list
> >>>>>>>> Bug-XBoard@gnu.org
> >>>>>>>> https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/bug-xboard
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
>
>
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