On Wed, Apr 24, 2013 at 01:02:49AM -0600, Jorge Armendariz wrote:
> On 04/23/2013 08:06 PM, Ted Unangst wrote:
> > On Tue, Apr 23, 2013 at 19:02, Jorge Armendariz wrote:
> >
> >> It would also be nice if we can buy our CD/DVD's with bitcoins. Way too
> >> much fee's in paypal, credit card and debit cards (just a thought).
> >> Especially for those outside of the U.S. or even Western world might
> >> facilitate for them the ordering process to do it that way.
> > So this week the project will have $50, and next week $200, and the
> > week after $25? We're building an operating system, not a hedge fund.
> >
> > The project needs money to pay bills denominated in "legacy"
> > currencies.
> Let me put it in a way that is understandable for all. There is still a
> lot of untapped sources of incom
> <http://endthelie.com/2013/04/05/the-new-renaissance-how-bitcoin-millionaires
> -will-change-the-world/#axzz2PhSGA0IK>e
> out there, and they are disproportionately of the hacker mentality
> <https://www.quantcast.com/inside-quantcast/2013/04/who-uses-bitcoins/>.
> They might not be OS hackers per say, but honestly it takes absolute 0
> effort to create a wallet where people can donate money. All you will
> have is gain, and absolutely nothing to lose. You put 5 minutes of
> effort to put a simply x amount of bits address, and voila that is it.
> If it was too much of a headache for you, if you would get even 100
> dollars of donations as a result of that. That would be a steal, but I
> can almost guarantee you will get a whole lot more than that (my guess
> is tens of thousands or more). I will personally make sure, at no
> expense of your own to go and evangelize this for you. So that you don't
> have to even move a finger in order for that to happen.
>
> I am sure that many here would share some of my problems with Credit
> cards/debit cards/paypal chargebacks along with identity theft. Just
> right now I am contesting for months now in my Dads account, Netflix,
> Hulu, Skype charges that are completely foreign among other things. I
> don't know from where the hell that came from. However, my use with
> credit/debit cards is going to be over for good soon. I have had to make
> SOO many new accounts because of that, and most of the time I have never
> received my money back. On top of all the waste of hours of precious
> time trying to get your money back. So yes, I would be VERY pleased to
> be able to still support such a project as OpenBSD but without all the
> drama associated with that. All it takes is one merchant, I don't care
> how getting a hold of your info and honestly I don't trust anyone with
> that information and neither should anyone when there is a ten times
> better option.
>
> Now with regards to the whole "legacy" currency a system such as bitpay
> <https://bitpay.com/> takes care of that type of problem, if you want to
> instantly transfer your BTC into fiat. Even more perfect, BTC wallets
> secured with OpenBSD type of security almost looks like the two were
> meant for a marriage, in fact that is what got me into OpenBSD so that I
> can keep a clean install with a wallet with nothing else installed so
> that it is hack proof. There are tons of articles
> <http://bitcoinmagazine.com/bitpay-receives-510000-from-investors/>
> proving the credibility of this company (bitpay) and the huge amount of
> full time workers just created recently is proof that they are working
> round the clock pretty busy attempting to meet the demand.
>
> It looks to me that you are not too aware of BTC
> <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Um63OQz3bjo>, if you are then my
> apologies. However, for everyone out there this is pretty mainstream now
> and is here to stay. If you want to cash out that is your deal, but
> there are plenty of options out there.
>
> Being the group of alpha hackers that you are, this would be something
> that surprises me no one has accepted. */Therefore I would heavily
> reconsider your options, and adapt/*. Thanks hope I was more clear this
> time. Once again thanks for all the great work everyone. My hope is that
> you can be able to fund many other projects with such quality code such
> as PF, SSH and many other things of that nature that have helped the
> open source movement be so secure.
>
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So why you don't setup a "OpenBSD" wallet and forward the received bitcoins
in the form of *real* money to OpenBSD?
The wallet's owner is anonynmous anyway and this way we can continue
to do what developers do best: develop software, instead of trying to
decide when and how to convert bitcoins into money they can use to buy
hardware, bandwidth or electricity.
-Otto
