I was thinking along a similar line so I did some research this morning.
The repeater is considered in automatic control if it does not have an
operator physically present at its operating point.  If the repeater is
being controlled by software then it is under automatic control.  The other
options are remote control, via a phone line or rf link, and local control,
which means a human operator is physically located at the machine.

The rules, not so simply, state that no automatically controlled radio may
transmit third party traffic.

So I'm guilty of putting my daughter on the air, Daryl is guilty of putting
his wife on the air and the Boy Scouts of America commit this crime every
year right about this weekend with JOTA.

Seven Three,

Michael - K5WRN
http://www.qrz.com/db/K5WRN

On Fri, Oct 17, 2014 at 10:33 AM, Eddie Runner via BVARC <[email protected]>
wrote:

> a repeater is not neccissarily AUTOMATIC CONTROL..
>
> Automatic control is like when a repeater automaticly keys up to send its
> ID.
>
>
>
> When one if us keys the repeater from our car or HT that is NOT automatic
> contol.
>
>
>
> I think someone may be missinterpretting this a bit.
>
>
>
> Part 97 is of course a bunch of legal talk,  ha ha,
>
> not easily interpreted by most of us..  (including me)
>
>
>
> but it does have definitions of automatic, control operator,  repeater and
> third party.
>
>
>
> the way I read it if you want to let your unlicensed buddy, child or
> wife,  talk through
>
> your microphone while you are in control of the rig, through a local
> repeater, it is ok.
>
>
>
> Eddie (NU5K)
>
>
>
> *From:* BVARC [mailto:[email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Travis
> Burgess via BVARC
> *Sent:* Thursday, October 16, 2014 7:24 PM
> *To:* [email protected]
> *Subject:* [BVARC] I didn't know that!
>
>
>
> From the Ham Test Online Extra study material:
>
>
>
>
>
> Automatically Controlled Stations and Third-Party Communications
>
> There are a couple of quirky laws about third party communications and
> automatically controlled stations.  The FCC is trying to make sure that
> amateur radio doesn't compete with any commercial services.
>
>    - Automatically controlled stations are not allowed to *originate *third
>    party communications.
>
>    - Automatically controlled stations are only allowed to *retransmit *third
>    party communications if they are RTTY or data.  In other words, if you pass
>    third party traffic by voice on a repeater, or let your unlicensed friend
>    talk on a repeater, and there is no control operator monitoring the
>    repeater at that time, the repeater is violating the regulations!  Most
>    hams don't know this rule, or simply ignore it, but it *is *the law.
>
>
>
>
>
> -------
>
>
>
> Travis
>
> K5HTB
>
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