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Dwayne KB5YTA On Fri, Jul 17, 2015 at 4:22 PM, Rick Hiller via BVARC <[email protected]> wrote: > Wow….all of these numbers, specifications, ratings, part this and part > that, are all so confusing and over whelming and make me pine for a more > simplistic thread about a W3-land weather gopher……what was his name? > Pittsburgh Pete? Or something like that……. J W5RH > > > > *From:* BVARC [mailto:[email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Mike > Hardwick via BVARC > *Sent:* Friday, July 17, 2015 3:57 PM > *To:* 'BRAZOS VALLEY AMATEUR RADIO CLUB' <[email protected]> > *Cc:* Mike Hardwick <[email protected]>; 'Bill Crowell' <[email protected]> > *Subject:* Re: [BVARC] 2m and maritime in the same box? > > > > Actually there is one radio that is type certified/accepted/approved for > both marine and business band usage (CFR 47 Part 80 marine and part 90). > It is an ICOM IC-M88 and it has all the VHF-FM marine channels as well as > the capability of programming up to 22 commercial channels/frequencies in > it between 146 and 174 MHz. The 22 channels can be either narrowband or > wideband and has the capability for CTCSS and DCS. Since Part 90 equipment > is allowed in amateur service, then this radio does cover both marine and > amateur services legally. > > > > However using it as an amateur radio would be limiting for several reasons; > > > > 1. It cannot be programmed from the front panel at all. You have to > use software and a special cable for programming. > > 2. It is limited to 22 extra channels/frequency pairs. > > 3. It only covers the upper 2 MHz of the 2 meter band. No mods for > the other 2 MHz. > > 4. It costs between $250 and $300 which is the cost of at least 7 > Baofengs (is this the Baofeng factor?) In fact, you could buy a couple of > Baofengs ($70) and a marine handheld ($80) and a marine base station ($100) > for the cost of one M88 > > > > The best bet for a marine radio is a marine radio and a ham radio for > amateur use. Use the right radio for the radio service. > > > > > > > > There are a couple of other radios that are type > certified/accepted/approved for marine and business band which should cover > amateur service but I do not think anybody would be interested in them. > > > > 1. Harris PRC-152 Wide-band 30-520 MHz, 762-870 > MHz, AM, WFM, NFM, PSK, CPM, FSK, P25P1, DES encryption, > ? > $9999? > > 2. Harris Unity XG-100P quad-band handheld radio with blue > tooth, GPS, 12,500 channel capacity, P25 digital format, DES encryption, > etc. $5500 > > 3. Motorola APX 7000 tri-band handheld radio with blue > tooth, more or less the same as above > > $6995 > > 4. Motorola APX 8000 quad-band handheld radio with blue > tooth, again the same as above > > $7995 > > > > I’m sure everyone will run out and buy two or three of these handheld > radios. > > > > Mike > > N5VCX > > > > > > > > *From:* BVARC [mailto:[email protected] <[email protected]>] *On > Behalf Of *Jon Noxon via BVARC > *Sent:* Friday, July 17, 2015 11:01 AM > *To:* BRAZOS VALLEY AMATEUR RADIO CLUB > *Cc:* Jon Noxon; Bill Crowell > *Subject:* Re: [BVARC] 2m and maritime in the same box? > > > > A quick web search reveals marine band HT’s are available from both Icom > and Yaesu. > > FCC “requirements” are here: > http://wireless.fcc.gov/services/index.htm?job=licensing&id=ship_stations > > > > Hope this helps. Sorry there is apparently no HT that transmits on both > amateur and marine VHF bands. Many ham HT’s will receive the marine VHF > frequencies. > > > > Jon/KF5TFJ > > > > > > On Jul 17, 2015, at 10:25 AM, Bill Crowell via BVARC <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > > Hi Rob and the gang, > > > > The only radio services where the “out of band” or out of certification > apply are the MARS and CAP frequencies immediately adjacent to the ham > bands. Very special exceptions to the rules. > > > > When I was active in MARS and CAP, I had modified my TS-430S for “all > frequency transmit” - one blocking diode. The diode for “transmit inhibit” > was a requirement for certification under Part 97 for Kenwood. > > > > Having made this change made it technically possible to spin the dial to > 27.185 and call “Breaker ONE NINE…”. That doesn’t mean that I actually did > it or that I somehow had a CB radio :) > > > > Many radio services, other than ours, are channelized because the people > using the radios are not radio operators. This is especially true for > Maritime where even HF frequencies are channelized. I had to memorize some > of the frequency charts to get my GMDSS license. > > > > Whether a Baofeng radio is a good choice for signal cleanliness to meet > certification is an entirely different matter... > > > > 73 > > > > Bill > > On Jul 17, 2015, at 10:02 AM, McClure, Rob K <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > > Hello Bill, > > > > Thanks for the reply. I knew it was a long shot and I think Icom ‘had’ to > quit making that HT for the same reasons due to rule changes although I’m > not sure. I did find where Yaesu did make one recently (now discontinued) > using the VX-6 or VX-7 framework that did do Aviation and Ham band, but I > could not find the Icom to which I referred. And as you said, I found none > that did 2m ham and maritime. > > > > I was just hoping to encourage this guy to get his license and get him on > the air as he has other friends besides myself that are hams and he thought > if he could kill two birds with one stone, he would get to the training > quicker. > > > > 73, Rob, KC5RET > > > > Rob McClure > > Cameron IT Staff > > Server Operations > > > > *From:* Bill Crowell [mailto:[email protected] <[email protected]>] > *Sent:* Friday, July 17, 2015 9:15 AM > *To:* BRAZOS VALLEY AMATEUR RADIO CLUB > *Cc:* McClure, Rob K > *Subject:* Re: [BVARC] 2m and maritime in the same box? > > > > Rob, > > > > I don’t think such an animal exists because of differing certifications. > > > > Ham Radio gear must be certified under part 97 of FCC rules. > > Maritime is under part 80. > > Also, maritime VHF is channelized whereas we use frequencies. For example, > every VHF marine radio must operate on channel 16 - bridge-to-bridge > simplex. > > > > Though it may be possible to use a ham rig to operate on the same > frequencies as marine, it may NOT be the only radio or the primary radio on > the vessel or harbor station for reasons of both type certification and > compliance with FCC rules and GMDSS regulations. When the Coast Guard pulls > you over and looks, they want to see a certified radio and it operating on > channel 16. <grin> > > > > 73. > > > > N4HPG > > Amateur Extra > > GROL > > 2nd Class Telegraph > > GMDSS operator/maintainer > > > > > > On Jul 17, 2015, at 8:58 AM, McClure, Rob K via BVARC <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > > Hello all, > > > > A coworker here at Cameron has expressed an interest in ham radio. I’m > going to help out as much as I can, and point him in what I think is the > right direction. > > > > He did have an interesting question. He assumed that my Yaesu FT-60 could > communicate on the maritime band. I told him know, but I thought he might > be able to monitor it them. I did a little checking and as I thought, the > Maritime VHF band is higher than the ham band, but it didn’t say if it was > AM, FM, SSB or digital. > > > > Which brings me to his question. He wanted to know if anyone makes a > 2m/Maritime HT or mobile rig. I thought this might be possible since Icom > used to make a 2m/Aviation HT for a while with an option I believe for a DF > using what I think are called VOR. > > > > So does anyone know if any one makes or have made (so I might find it at a > ham fest) a 2m/maritime HT or mobile size rig? > > > > 73 all, Rob, KC5RET > > > > Rob McClure > > Cameron IT Staff > > Server Operations > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > This email message is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and > may contain confidential and privileged information of Cameron and its > Operating Divisions. Any unauthorized use or disclosure is prohibited. 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