I agree with K5HM. Now is not the time to abandon ARRL which is restricted in what they can do before losing their 501c3 status. ARRL provides a great resource. But they are not into the heavy politics required.
WE do need to stop these bills before we screw ourselves. That means we must SEE our legislators. WE DO NEED A HAMPAC separate from ARRL and amateurs should fund it at twice the rate of our ARRL membership. Such money may turn out to be the cheapest we ever spend. Yes, West Gulf has a start but now it is dormant. Mike Brannan, KA5OXA Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: K5HM Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2016 10:25 AM To: 'GDoucet SBC';'Jimmy Vance';'Jack Philley';'Mike Brannan';BRAZOS VALLEY AMATEUR RADIO CLUB;[email protected] Cc: [email protected];[email protected];[email protected];[email protected];[email protected];[email protected];[email protected];[email protected];[email protected];[email protected];[email protected];[email protected];[email protected];[email protected];[email protected];[email protected];[email protected];[email protected];[email protected];[email protected];[email protected];[email protected];[email protected];[email protected];[email protected];[email protected];[email protected];[email protected];[email protected];[email protected];[email protected];[email protected];[email protected];[email protected];[email protected];[email protected];[email protected];[email protected];[email protected];[email protected];[email protected];[email protected];[email protected];[email protected];[email protected];[email protected];[email protected];[email protected];[email protected];[email protected];[email protected];[email protected];[email protected];[email protected];[email protected];[email protected];[email protected];[email protected];[email protected];[email protected];[email protected];[email protected];[email protected];[email protected];[email protected] Subject: RE: [BVARC] [tdxs-list] Fwd: Emailing: S1685_amended.pdf, S1685_amended.doc, HR1301_amended.doc, HR1301_amended.pdf I agree with the general dissatisfaction of the outcome, although I would not rush to judgement on the entire ARRL organization. There are many other good things that come out of the League. Unfortunately, politics is not their strong suit. The HOA’s have a major lobbying group and our voice is very small. Most people think of us a weird geeks tinkering in our garage. Geeks don’t have clout. ARRL’s position as a 501c3 organization limits what the League can do directly as far as financial assistance for this effort. We need a real PAC Where are all the companies that benefit from Ham Radio? The antenna manufacturers, the transceiver makers, big wholesalers who live off our purchases. What have they contributed to this effort? If we as a community really got behind this effort with our wallets, the outcome might have been better. We could easily have raised $2,000,000. for this task. Money talks folks. The harbinger of failure was the FCC’s opinion last year that a federal mandate for PRB-1 was unnecessary. Lobbying the FCC for a strong, positive statement should have been the first task. Forget about going around them. Yes, I would have done it differently. Instead of a go for broke approach, we should have taken an incremental approach over several years, like the West Gulf Division guys have been doing in Texas. Build up the clamor and the support engine. Make this the #1 priority of Ham Radio. Get a giant war chest. Otherwise you can all go back to sleep. 73, Ron, K5HM [email protected] www.qrz.com/db/k5hm Excelsior! From: GDoucet SBC [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2016 9:49 AM To: 'Jimmy Vance' <[email protected]>; 'Jack Philley' <[email protected]>; 'Mike Brannan' <[email protected]> Cc: [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected] Subject: RE: [BVARC] [tdxs-list] Fwd: Emailing: S1685_amended.pdf, S1685_amended.doc, HR1301_amended.doc, HR1301_amended.pdf Based on this I don’t see myself renewing my ARRL membership. They led this charge and set themselves up as being our savior. All I see is a royal screw job. Gerald Doucet N5KT From: Jimmy Vance [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2016 09:17 To: Jack Philley; 'Mike Brannan' Cc: [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected] Subject: Re: [BVARC] [tdxs-list] Fwd: Emailing: S1685_amended.pdf, S1685_amended.doc, HR1301_amended.doc, HR1301_amended.pdf Actually this version is Worse Than Nothing. We are better off with what we have now than having this in place. From what John was telling us in the train shed, the ARRL board is fine with "stealth antennas and hidden wires" We are already doing that now, we don't need a federal law stating as such. On 6/30/2016 7:50 AM, Jack Philley wrote: Amen, you are correct. This version requires hams to get approval from HOA for any and all antennas, and allows the HOA to determine what is reasonable. Recent ARRL newsletter indicated this draft is a compromise actually written by two opposing lobby groups, the ARRL and the national HOA association. This is another example of the dominance of special interest groups at the expense of individual citizens. This version clearly does not represent “parity” with the existing Federal exemptions for homeowner TV reception antennas. This version is BTN (better than nothing), but not by much. It may help some hams. Pretty sad result. Jack wb5kvv From: Mike Brannan [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2016 10:33 PM To: [email protected] Cc: [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected] Subject: Fwd: [BVARC] [tdxs-list] Fwd: Emailing: S1685_amended.pdf, S1685_amended.doc, HR1301_amended.doc, HR1301_amended.pdf Here is more information about the bad Parity act. The attached is the proposal which N5AUS was warning us. Read it carefully, you will see many places where the HOA's would have the amateurs over a barrel. Mike Brannan [email protected] 281-782-3046 -----Original Message----- From: Allen Brier N5XZ via BVARC <[email protected]> To: 'Pat Cameron' <[email protected]>; 'TDXS List' <[email protected]>; 'BRAZOS VALLEY AMATEUR RADIO CLUB' <[email protected]> Cc: Allen Brier N5XZ <[email protected]>; 'John Robert Stratton' <[email protected]> Sent: Wed, Jun 29, 2016 9:38 pm Subject: Re: [BVARC] [tdxs-list] Fwd: Emailing: S1685_amended.pdf, S1685_amended.doc, HR1301_amended.doc, HR1301_amended.pdf You might want to hold off on this now. After talking to John Stratton at the BVARC Field Day, it appears that in the revised bill, the ARRL has caved in to ALL of the demands of the HOA associations, and the result is that the situation could become even worse than before! Please don't do anything until I hear back from John Stratton with more details. Allen R. Brier N5XZ 1515 Windloch Lane Richmond, Texas 77406-2553 (281) 342-1882 (Home) (713) 705-4801 (Cell) -----Original Message----- From: tdxs-list [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Pat Cameron Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2016 7:05 AM To: TDXS List <[email protected]>; BRAZOS VALLEY AMATEUR RADIO CLUB <[email protected]> Subject: [tdxs-list] Fwd: Emailing: S1685_amended.pdf, S1685_amended.doc, HR1301_amended.doc, HR1301_amended.pdf It's time to support antenna legislation again. HOA CAO national organization and the ARRL have come to an agreement and here is the bill in it's current form: http://www.arrl.org/files/file/Regulatory/ParityAct-SubstituteBill-Official- 2016.pdf We need to remind our representatives that this bill is still at the forefront of our radio priorities. This may be the final law ... I think there is some ambiguity in the language and I would like to see a minimum antenna height.. say 70' is lower minimum effective height for 20 meter beam. Anything is better than nothing. Now I see many business opportunities... aesthetics is the primary concern for the agreement to work from the HOA point of view. How about a new line of tubular telescoping towers that can be mass produced so it is cost effective and strong... Produce your own PDF from the word document and change to your rep and signature ... email to [email protected] With subject line : Attn: S 1685 Grassroots campaign (or HR 1301 for congress) S1685_amended.pdf S1685_amended.doc HR1301_amended.doc HR1301_amended.pdf Note: To protect against computer viruses, e-mail programs may prevent sending or receiving certain types of file attachments. 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