And White Water

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> On Jul 17, 2016, at 5:14 PM, Travis Burgess via BVARC <[email protected]> wrote:
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> Use the gray water to flush the black water.
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> Travis
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> K5HTB
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> From: BVARC <[email protected]> on behalf of WILLIS COOKE via BVARC 
> <[email protected]>
> Sent: Sunday, July 17, 2016 4:40 PM
> To: BRAZOS VALLEY AMATEUR RADIO CLUB
> Cc: WILLIS COOKE; DAVID M GRAY JR; Rick Hiller; [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [BVARC] Slightly Off Topic - SHTF - Water Budget - source of 
> inexpensive jugs
>  
> I think that grey-water is the polite term for dish water, but black-water is 
> the polite term for the rest of it.
> 
> Cookie
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> From: Rick Hiller via BVARC <[email protected]>
> To: BRAZOS VALLEY AMATEUR RADIO CLUB <[email protected]> 
> Cc: Rick Hiller <[email protected]>; DAVID M GRAY JR <[email protected]>; 
> [email protected]
> Sent: Sunday, July 17, 2016 3:48 PM
> Subject: Re: [BVARC] Slightly Off Topic - SHTF - Water Budget - source of 
> inexpensive jugs
> 
> I wonder what the impolite term for grey water is? 
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> Sent from my eye doo hickey
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> On Jul 17, 2016, at 3:21 PM, Jon Livingston kb0mnm via BVARC 
> <[email protected]> wrote:
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>> Folks, 
>>   I think that it is safe to say that as men and usually of a 'boy scout 
>> mentality' that most ( not all ) are interested in 'survivalism' or being 
>> prepared. Ditto the ladies.
>> That said, give a little thought to what happens to the other end of the 
>> water situation. The polite term for used water that can still have use is 
>> 'Gray-water", meaning that it might be suitable for watering plants- yet 
>> cannot be relied upon to be safe for drinking (potable).
>>   If you have thoughts about saving water that could be processed by 
>> distillation ( solar still, etc. ), consider cleaning and hanging on to the 
>> bottles which contain:
>> Kitty Litter ( rinse well ), Bottled juice, etc. especially if these can be 
>> kept out of the sun- Algae forms w/o dillute bleach or other chemicals.
>> 
>> on a separate note, only related to a recent repeater conversation:
>> Why are we not sending folks to Mars?
>> The answer is pretty simple: propulsion and life support. Visit the NASA 
>> educational facility nearby and they will tell you about both.
>> Propulsion: They are working on ways to avoid previously used and 
>> inefficient systems. Ion-propulsion will probably be a candidate. The fuels 
>> previously used would have to be available in quantities greater than what 
>> the earth could hold ( let alone provide ) if used in the way done before. 
>> The big problem is that the weight of the fuel carried gets greater and 
>> greater for larger 'payloads', problematic -particularly when breaking the 
>> earth's gravity.
>> Life Support: While we can support 'rebreathing' ( re-use of oxygen by 
>> recycling carbon dioxide chemically ), the process would have to be much 
>> more reliable before any one person would consider risking the use of 
>> re-breathing for a number of years. Our rockets ( now) are fast, yet Mars is 
>> far away. Same for water and food.
>> 
>> 73 de KB0MNM- Jon- back to looking for work.... I want to survive also...
>> 
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>> From: "DAVID M GRAY JR via BVARC" <[email protected]>
>> To: "BRAZOS VALLEY AMATEUR RADIO CLUB" <[email protected]>
>> Cc: "DAVID M GRAY JR" <[email protected]>
>> Sent: Sunday, July 17, 2016 11:55:17 AM
>> Subject: Re: [BVARC] Slightly Off Topic - SHTF - Water Budget - source of 
>> inexpensive barrels
>> 
>> Tractor Supply has a nice 500 gal poly tank for water.
>>  I explored the idea of keeping kerosene for cooking but charcoal smells a 
>> lot better.
>>   Canned goods go out of date pretty fast; dry beans,rice last a long time 
>> if you can keep bugs and critters away.
>>   David, K5HEC
>> Sent from my iPad
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>> On Jul 17, 2016, at 11:20 AM, Bill Crowell, N4HPG via BVARC 
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
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>> All,
>> 
>> When we do our disaster planning, we’re pretty good about having a power 
>> budget for radios. We might have a food budget, but few have a reasonable 
>> water budget. How many days can you go without municipal water?
>> 
>> If your SHTF plan involves a lot of dried rice and beans, you need even MORE 
>> water.
>> 
>> The municipal water for our neighborhood is supplied by a pumping station on 
>> FM518 with a ground-mounted electric pump. If that pump fails or loses 
>> power, we don’t have water.
>> 
>> I’ve recently acquired a couple of 55-gallon, food-grade barrels from a very 
>> nice seller on eBay. His website is houstonbarrels.com. Mine were used to 
>> transport vinegar. I’ve just cleaned them and sanitized with bleach and will 
>> be adding taps so that gravity can do the pouring. Having 110 gallons of 
>> water is a really good thing.
>> 
>> NOW a couple of things:
>> 1. It is unlawful for Mike to sell you food barrels for potable water. But, 
>> he won’t follow you home to see what you’re going to use them for. I just 
>> said I want them for “fluid storage”.
>> 
>> 2. If you do intend to store potable water, it is imperative that you do so 
>> properly as bad water can make you very ill. I use some bleach.
>> 
>> 73
>> 
>> Bill Crowell, N4HPG
>> Pearland, TX
>> [email protected]
>> I prefer to live a life of galvanic isolation.
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