As a civil engineer, I feel obligated to chime in on this:
1. Many MUD districts and regional Cities, after TS Allison and Hurricane Ike,
used recovery money to obtain and maintain portable emergency pumps and
portable generators (by acquisition or contract), so as not to disrupt service
for too long a period after a major storm event. 2. Grey water (no fecal
content) is either dishwater or treated effluent (from a wastewater plant,
WWTP).3. Many public golf courses are irrigated by treated effluent.4. Don't
tap into purple colored pipe for a potable water source, it's distributed grey
water.5. We're drinking and bathing in recycled water from the upper watersheds
that include the Cities of Dallas and Fort Worth.6. All the urban bayous in our
area have water flowing in them during even the worst drought, this water is
treated effluent from upstream WWTP's.7. This subject is way off topic, water
and electronics don't mix well.
Respectfully submitted,MarkK5MGJ
From: WILLIS COOKE via BVARC <[email protected]>
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Subject: Re: [BVARC] Slightly Off Topic - SHTF - Water Budget - source of
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I think that grey-water is the polite term for dish water, but black-water is
the polite term for the rest of it.
Cookie
From: Rick Hiller via BVARC <[email protected]>
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Subject: Re: [BVARC] Slightly Off Topic - SHTF - Water Budget - source of
inexpensive jugs
I wonder what the impolite term for grey water is?
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On Jul 17, 2016, at 3:21 PM, Jon Livingston kb0mnm via BVARC <[email protected]>
wrote:
Folks,
I think that it is safe to say that as men and usually of a 'boy scout
mentality' that most ( not all ) are interested in 'survivalism' or being
prepared. Ditto the ladies.That said, give a little thought to what happens to
the other end of the water situation. The polite term for used water that can
still have use is 'Gray-water", meaning that it might be suitable for watering
plants- yet cannot be relied upon to be safe for drinking (potable). If you
have thoughts about saving water that could be processed by distillation (
solar still, etc. ), consider cleaning and hanging on to the bottles which
contain:Kitty Litter ( rinse well ), Bottled juice, etc. especially if these
can be kept out of the sun- Algae forms w/o dillute bleach or other chemicals.
on a separate note, only related to a recent repeater conversation:Why are we
not sending folks to Mars?The answer is pretty simple: propulsion and life
support. Visit the NASA educational facility nearby and they will tell you
about both.Propulsion: They are working on ways to avoid previously used and
inefficient systems. Ion-propulsion will probably be a candidate. The fuels
previously used would have to be available in quantities greater than what the
earth could hold ( let alone provide ) if used in the way done before. The big
problem is that the weight of the fuel carried gets greater and greater for
larger 'payloads', problematic -particularly when breaking the earth's
gravity.Life Support: While we can support 'rebreathing' ( re-use of oxygen by
recycling carbon dioxide chemically ), the process would have to be much more
reliable before any one person would consider risking the use of re-breathing
for a number of years. Our rockets ( now) are fast, yet Mars is far away. Same
for water and food.
73 de KB0MNM- Jon- back to looking for work.... I want to survive also...
From: "DAVID M GRAY JR via BVARC" <[email protected]>
To: "BRAZOS VALLEY AMATEUR RADIO CLUB" <[email protected]>
Cc: "DAVID M GRAY JR" <[email protected]>
Sent: Sunday, July 17, 2016 11:55:17 AM
Subject: Re: [BVARC] Slightly Off Topic - SHTF - Water Budget - source of
inexpensive barrels
Tractor Supply has a nice 500 gal poly tank for water. I explored the idea of
keeping kerosene for cooking but charcoal smells a lot better. Canned goods go
out of date pretty fast; dry beans,rice last a long time if you can keep bugs
and critters away.
David, K5HEC
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On Jul 17, 2016, at 11:20 AM, Bill Crowell, N4HPG via BVARC <[email protected]>
wrote:
All,
When we do our disaster planning, we’re pretty good about having a power budget
for radios. We might have a food budget, but few have a reasonable water
budget. How many days can you go without municipal water?
If your SHTF plan involves a lot of dried rice and beans, you need even MORE
water.
The municipal water for our neighborhood is supplied by a pumping station on
FM518 with a ground-mounted electric pump. If that pump fails or loses power,
we don’t have water.
I’ve recently acquired a couple of 55-gallon, food-grade barrels from a very
nice seller on eBay. His website is houstonbarrels.com. Mine were used to
transport vinegar. I’ve just cleaned them and sanitized with bleach and will be
adding taps so that gravity can do the pouring. Having 110 gallons of water is
a really good thing.
NOW a couple of things:1. It is unlawful for Mike to sell you food barrels for
potable water. But, he won’t follow you home to see what you’re going to use
them for. I just said I want them for “fluid storage”.
2. If you do intend to store potable water, it is imperative that you do so
properly as bad water can make you very ill. I use some bleach.
73
Bill Crowell, N4HPGPearland, [email protected] prefer to live a life of
galvanic isolation.
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