So what happens if you avoid Outlook(tm) entirely by using Windows7(tm) and the ISP ( Service Provider, eg. Comcast ) mail system? ( I may be about to find out, once the new refurb HP8570P machine is *backed-up properly* ).
Jon L. Livingston, Electronics Technician 17722 Fieldglen Drive ( SE of FM529 & B.Cypress) Houston, Texas 77084 [email protected] (832)-591-0082 mobile Cellular General Radiotelephone license PGGB062294 CET Wireless Communications WCM-R150251 Amateur Radio license KB0MNM 73 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Scott Royall via BVARC" <[email protected]> To: "BRAZOS VALLEY AMATEUR RADIO CLUB" <[email protected]> Cc: "Scott Royall" <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2016 3:09:22 PM Subject: Re: [BVARC] Win10 upgrade problem There is that. Of course, Office updates automatically if you're a Home Office subscriber. From: JP Pritchard [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2016 14:50 To: BRAZOS VALLEY AMATEUR RADIO CLUB <[email protected]> Cc: Scott Royall <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [BVARC] Win10 upgrade problem I've had win10 on all but one of my several computers for a year now. They give very little trouble. However, unless you figure out how disable automatic updates, you will occasionally find that everything is running sluggishly for a while while an update occurs in the background. Also I find that Outlook 2003 too often locks up, needing a repair executed from the Programs page under Control Panel. JP Pritchard KG3JPP Sent from my iPhone On Jul 27, 2016, at 1:33 PM, Scott Royall via BVARC < [email protected] > wrote: Ah, another voice of sanity heard. I suppose this is where I unfurl my flag of elitism and go on record as saying people should have to pass proficiency tests before buying computers. They ostensibly do for vehicles. But then, in my jaundiced opinion, that should be true for most things, starting with parenting. Of course, that won’t ever happen, partly because companies would go bankrupt waiting for potential customers to pass the requisite tests! Hams, in aggregate, are a bunch of old white guys, including me. Statistically speaking, we’re probably not the sharpest knives in the drawer of mental agility, and really understanding computers isn't as trivial as companies would want. There are exceptions, but I’d bet heavily that the reasons those “8.1” apps Jo couldn't get to run in Windows 10 all boil down to user error. I can be so confident about that because Windows 10 is Windows 8.1 reworked a bit. Microsoft literally cannot totally rewrite Windows because backward compatibility keeps them profitable. I cannot speak for other hams as individuals, but understanding computers isn't optional for me. Computers are what enable me to function; I am the one who suffers if I can’t resolve a software issue I’m having. Some of you have heard me on-air, and guess who wrote that application. To be clear, it’s constructed of commercial components, but I did the constructing so I have to maintain a good general understanding of Windows internals. As one result, I always know when falsehoods and half-truths about Windows start swirling around. From: BVARC [ mailto:[email protected] ] On Behalf Of Jeffrey Carson via BVARC Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2016 11:59 To: BRAZOS VALLEY AMATEUR RADIO CLUB < [email protected] > Cc: Jeffrey Carson < [email protected] > Subject: Re: [BVARC] Win10 upgrade problem I just put 10 on my last PC at home yesterday. It took about 4 hours to install and reboot, appeared to get stuck many times during the process. Ran like CRAP for the first 20, then rebooted, worked good for a few, then CRAP again, rebooted. Basically its installing a whole load of drivers and such during the first few boots, so make sure you dont need the computer immediately after for anything urgent. About 3 reboots and its just like my other w10 machines, just fine. From: jo.l.keener--- via BVARC < [email protected] > To: [email protected] Cc: " [email protected] " < [email protected] >; [email protected] ; [email protected] ; [email protected] ; [email protected] ; [email protected] Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2016 11:38 AM Subject: Re: [BVARC] Win10 upgrade problem I tried windows 10 and had more nightmares than carter's little liver pills. STICK with 8.1. I had to take my tower to Geek squad to get it fixed and they reinstalled 8.1 again. I had apps that would not open, and all sorts of other stuff too many to mention here, so stick with 8.1 Jo.L. Keener KE7NSB You gotta love the smell of black powder in the morning. Hard cast lead bullets available. If you can read this, thank a soldier or Marine Contact Jo.L. Keener 832-539-1935 ____________________________________________________________ Affordable Wireless Plans Set up is easy. Get online in minutes. 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