I agree with Jerry on this, I can "run", I'm not a pro but I do my best, but
it's not my favorite thing to do. Half of what field day is for is introducing
ham radio to non-hams. Do you really think that by introducing people new to
ham radio to a room full of people who are much more interested in racking up
QSOs/points than stopping and taking time to explain what's going on and
answering questions is going to make them any more inclined to become hams? I
can hear the argument of "That's what GOTA's for" and to a degree can agree
with that. The problem I have with that is, especially in the case of a new
ham or an old ham that doesn't have the ability to work HF, is that limits the
ability of other hams to ELMER the new or non-hams. The first field day I went
to, I learned a great deal about field day and operating HF sitting with Ross
on a splitter scribeing for him. Later I actually worked up enough courage to
work a half hour or hour trying to make contacts, something I wouldn't have
done if I hadn't sat with Ross for that time. I don't have an issue with
having contesters there and letting them run but making field day, or at least
our field day, a nothing but contest stations event would effectively end my
participation in Field Day with BVARC. I know points wise, I don't do much,
and my help with set up and tear down is limited, and my presence may not be
missed at the event. But I have no love for serous contesting (of any kind),
I've done serious contest don't like it.
As far as how freaking HOT it got in that house, it was built in the early
50's, I DOUBT anyone has had new insulation blown in in the last 20+ years.
Doesn't matter how good/new your AC is, if the house can't hold the cold in or
keep the heat out, it's going to be hotter that hell. Auxillary AC would help
if the house can handle them.
As far as MIDRATS go, Kellie and I did have the idea of either making a big pot
of Mac and cheese or grilled cheese sandwiches, I'm not sure why we didn't.
Theresa Williams KE5MUX
On Wednesday, June 27, 2018, 10:34:28 PM CDT, gmuller885--- via BVARC
<[email protected]> wrote:
to all
You are correct. Not everyone can or will "RUN". I think some of us in the
clubs have forgotten what FIELD DAY is all about. Yes some clubs have to prove
they are number one. How ever that usually means that only the best operators
get to play. I for one look at it as a teaching experience for the new ham or
not contester to learn from the ELMERS in the Clubs. I for one think that ARRL
should do away with a point system. It an't a CONTEST.
Gerald Muller [email protected]
In a message dated 6/27/2018 9:33:47 PM Central Standard Time, [email protected]
writes:
“Too many contest rookies”, wow, now that’s the way to get more participation !
Throw a label out there at people, who like everyone, has to start somewhere
before they become “not a contest rookie” like yourself I presume. Exactly why
I did not go to FD, didn’t want to feel like I was in the way !
Paul NollKG5MHD
Love your pets, they want and deserve it !!!
On Jun 26, 2018, at 11:13 PM, Ron Litt via BVARC <[email protected]> wrote:
I agree with most all of te comments. WE need to have a way to recruit Phone
conesters. Most of the SSB ops seemed to be there just to see what it is like.
Not to contest. I have written to some folks at the Potomac Valley Radio club
and the Tennessee Contest group to get some ideas from them.
Also agree with Bill about people switching headsets. I found someone who had
done just that to my K3. Too bad for him. My radio, my rules. There are some
things that people should not mess with on other peoples gear.
Too many contest rookies. We need experienced SSB operators that know how to
run. I have a couple of ideas in that area but will outline it later. Too
late tonight.
Regards,
Ron Litt
281-961-4570
866-667-0521 FAX
[email protected]
From: BVARC <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Bill Cordell via BVARC
Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2018 8:22 PM
To: 'BRAZOS VALLEY AMATEUR RADIO CLUB' <[email protected]>; 'Jim Blanca'
<[email protected]>
Cc: Bill Cordell <[email protected]>; [email protected]; 'Doug Seyler'
<[email protected]>; [email protected]; 'NIzar Mullani'
<[email protected]>; 'Curt Fletcher' <[email protected]>;
[email protected]; 'Jimmy Vance' <[email protected]>; 'Allen Brier N5XZ'
<[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [BVARC] FD thoughts
Allen:
Great summation..
Bill
From: BVARC <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Allen Brier N5XZ via BVARC
Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2018 6:57 PM
To: 'Jim Blanca' <[email protected]>; 'BRAZOS VALLEY AMATEUR RADIO CLUB'
<[email protected]>
Cc: Allen Brier N5XZ <[email protected]>; 'Doug Seyler'
<[email protected]>; [email protected]; 'NIzar Mullani'
<[email protected]>; 'Curt Fletcher' <[email protected]>;
[email protected]; 'Jimmy Vance' <[email protected]>; [email protected]
Subject: Re: [BVARC] FD thoughts
For Field Day next year we will (or should):
- Have Jeff Hoke from CenterPoint Energy come out several months before FD
and then again several weeks before.
- Locate the main antennas East<->West of each other to minimize
interstation interference.
- Route digital feed lines separate from CW feed lines.
- Investigate the use of some portable A/C units.
- Investigate the use of coax stubs to further reduce interstation
interference.
- KEEP THE SAME COOK! (Great job on food!)
- KEEP THE SAME NETWORK GUY! (Great job on computers, networking, software,
etc. We are really lucky to have you, Glen!)
- Suggest either TDXS or BVARC purchase a new 2-el 40m beam.
- Put CW antennas on highest manlifts.
- Investigate the use of a manual switch to switch radios from mains to
generator (to eliminate last minute confusion…or) switch radios to generator
well before 1pm.
- Make sure GOTA station operators know the rules.
I thought this was one of our best Field Days yet, due to the new location
(irrespective of noise). Hopefully we can work out the noise issues with
CenterPoint or fix whatever is making the noise in the house. The house and the
land were a big improvement over what we have had in the past. The
participation by other clubs (especially KARS) was a big plus. We may need to
make some more rules, especially with respect to moving headsets around in the
SSB room…or make sure all are setup the same way. We also need a greater push
with the SSB operators regarding operating technique to maximize rate (teach
them to run).
I am also dumbfounded and extremely disappointed in the lack of participation
by other TDXS members. I suggest we make a push again for next year, but we
need to start six months in advance so that they do not make other plans first.
I know I have other thoughts and will express them as soon as they come to the
front of my mind.
Allen R. Brier N5XZ
1515 Windloch Lane
Richmond, Texas 77406-2553
(281) 342-1882 (Home)
(713) 705-4801 (Cell)
From: Jim Blanca [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2018 4:39 PM
To: BRAZOS VALLEY AMATEUR RADIO CLUB <[email protected]>
Cc: Allen R. Brier <[email protected]>; Curt Fletcher
<[email protected]>; NIzar Mullani <[email protected]>; Scott Royall
<[email protected]>; [email protected]
Subject: Re: [BVARC] FD thoughts
Like Scott, I had the over night shift. I started at the beginning and
finished around 4:30 AM- 5:00AM, when Nizar came to rescue me! I went home and
slept for a couple of hours, then went to Church. I returned about 1/2 hour
before the end with my wife (KD8CMB) and tried to get her to work a little SSB.
Alas, no luck, but she did sign in!!
I did not do much of the take down, except move some tables and chairs, as my
grandson decided to be born on June 25th, and he takes priority! We had his
7th birthday party at our place. Can you imagine a house full of kids, right
after field day, and having only a couple hours of sleep!!
I agree wholeheartedly with Nizar’s and Curt’s comments. I am somewhat
dumbfounded at the lack of participation from the TDXS, as I believe there were
approximately 6 of us in attendance, although I could be wrong on that number
and just missed folks who came out on Sunday morning.
73 de Jim - KE8G
On Tue, Jun 26, 2018 at 12:21 PM Scott Royall via BVARC <[email protected]> wrote:
Happy that you enjoyed it. My experience was a bit different since I had the
overnight shift, but I second your action items.
-----Original Message-----
From: BVARC <[email protected]> On Behalf Of NIzar Mullani via BVARC
Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2018 11:13
To: 'Curt Fletcher' <[email protected]>; 'Allen R. Brier'
<[email protected]>
Cc: NIzar Mullani <[email protected]>; [email protected]; 'BRAZOS VALLEY
AMATEUR RADIO CLUB' <[email protected]>
Sub: Re: [BVARC] FD thoughts
Overall evaluation of the QUAD club FD would have to be 4+ out of 5. Great
location, great teamwork and great people. Most importantly, the bands opened
up on Sunday for a great ending. 3,000 QSOs considering that we had high noise
on 40 and 80 meters and no propagation on 15 and 10 on Saturday, is a great
score. So, thank you to ALL the organizers and the clubs for making this very
successful.
Here are a couple of suggestions to make it even better for next year.
1. Trace the noise generator prior to FD so we can reduce it. S9 noise on 80
meters made it almost useless. We could not hear most of the signals.
2. Locate the antennas so as to minimize interference between SSB, CW and
Digital modes antennas.
-----Original Message-----
From: Curt Fletcher [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Monday, June 25, 2018 7:20 AM
To: Nizar Mullani; Allen R. Brier
Subject: FD thoughts
A few random thoughts on FD. For a few years I thought TDXS should break away
and do our own FD, I’m wrong. There isn’t enough TDXS members participating to
put up a tent, throw a rock over a tree with a long wire on the end. The BVARC
and Katy guys really did a great job with just about everything hardware
related. The current arrangement is perfect for all concerned, Glen and Allen
organizing computers and radios, BVARC guys towers and antennas, Katy guys
organizing, labor and sweat.
New location is far superior to the fire stations. Obviously figuring out the
noise issue prior to FD would be nice.
Curt
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