And so everyone knows why I am up so darned late, I am waiting for the
02:22 ISS pass to download a stinking picture since I only have 2 more
realistic shots at doing so :-)

On Tue, Dec 29, 2020 at 1:43 AM Ron Bosch <[email protected]> wrote:

> Mark,
> A few points that I couldn't make on the net, because of time.
> 1.  I wasn't saying don't do it, just don't expect a bunch of QSO's.  You
> will be limited to when the band is really open, and the noise floor is low
> at the receiving antenna.  That will reduce the number of potential
> contacts by at least an order of magnitude.  That being said, operating
> anything is better than operating nothing.
> 2.  IMHO, and end fed antenna is not a good choice unless you also build a
> matching bridge.  You can't expect to maintain an exact 50-ohm load from an
> end-fed with just a toroid, you also need some shunt resistors, and
> variable caps, and such, and you will need to tune it depending on
> conditions due to reactance unless you built-in a big enough reactance in
> the circuit, and cut the end-fed to exactly 1/2 wave where you want to
> operate, and the toroid with that much permeability probably ain't cheap.
> A better approach to me would be a 20M 1/2 wave dipole trimmed at operating
> height with an antenna analyzer.
> 3.  Doing this in the city, with the amount of interference, and the
> antenna compromises we have to make seems to add a whole other set of
> issues to making contacts.  If I were to do it, I might plan to take the
> rig out of the city to operate it, and get the advantage of using trees and
> such to get my dipole at 33 feet up, with a low noise floor to increase my
> chances of contacts.
> 4.  In any event, I suspect you are really going to need at least a Nano
> VNA to make sure you don't smoke the finals, since I doubt seriously that a
> QRP kit includes protection circuitry.  That will add a minimum of $50 to
> your build, although you would save a bunch on the antenna if you built a
> 1/2 wave dipole instead.  Heck, I have an extra 1:1 current balun I can
> part with for the rock bottom price of $0.02, and since I am including my
> $0.02 in this email, net due is $0.00 :-)
>
> Ron
> KE4DRF
>
> On Mon, Dec 28, 2020 at 11:44 PM Mark Brantana via BVARC <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>> I thought I had things all figured out. I originally wanted to get back
>> on HF, and found I could get some great used equipment for about $400, not
>> including antenna. Add a 10-80 m antenna from MyAntenna for around $165. I
>> already have coax installed. Grand total: $565
>>
>> Normally, this cost would not be an issue, but like so many others I am
>> short on funds due to CV-19, so it is a bad time for this expenditure. I
>> find I can buy a 20-m QRP Labs CW mini with case for about $90, and build
>> an EFHW antenna for another $20 (including the matching toroid). Grand
>> Total: $110
>>
>> Everything has its advantages though. A ham since ’78, that’s 1987, I
>> feel that
>> 1. this would force me to improve my almost forgotten code without the
>> inevitable distraction of voice alternatives,
>> 2. this would give me a chance to build a full small project and antenna.
>>
>> Today, though, some felt that this setup would lead to disappointment on
>> my part. I am fully aware there will be some limitations to QRP, but the
>> generally negative comments form our net were as follows:
>> 1. The band is poor at this time.
>> 2. The 4-5 Watt QRP would not get in, and even a 100 Watt unit would not
>> suffice, but needs to be about 500 Watts. This would lead me to need back
>> to spending at least $565, and more for an amplifier. (So we are now saying
>> that even a typical 100 Watt radio is insufficient?) (I would also note
>> that QRP sells a 50 W amplifier for this radio as an add on.
>>
>> Experience counts. So, I am looking for my fellow hams with QRP
>> experience to share their thoughts. I thought I had this all figured out,
>> but if I am going down a wrong road, I need to know. What has been your
>> experience with 20-m QRP?
>>
>> Mark
>> N5PRD
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