I now use the MFJ version of this wire antenna. Works great. One of the 1st 
contacts was Germany on 40M one night @500W. Amazing. Mine is good into 
Southern hemisphere a lot now.

Terry Leatherland, K5PGF281-455-8090Sugar Land, Tx
 

    On Tuesday, December 29, 2020, 11:18:03 AM CST, Rick Hiller via BVARC 
<bvarc@bvarc.org> wrote:  
 
 Sounds fun.  I'm in for one for the lake house.....Rick  W5RH

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On Tue, Dec 29, 2020 at 10:55 AM mark janzer via BVARC <bvarc@bvarc.org> wrote:

 If there is enough interest, we could pull together a session for members to 
build their own 40m or 80m EFHW antenna, for the BVARC January 23rd Club 
Activity morning at the Bayland Park Community Center. The design would be this 
(credit to Rick Hiller for the reference):
19-End+Fed+Half+Wave.pdf (squarespace.com)

EFHW Antenna --- Building The Transformer - YouTube


The parts are locally sourced (JPM Supply and Home Depot), either triple or 
dual core unun (240-43), and the entire assemblage would cost roughly $60-$70. 
We'd use the 43 material for the cores, vs. 52 - to reduce the cost. The 43 
cores are readily available from JPM Supply.Members would reserve ahead 
(pre-pay via Paypal) once a parts list is fully generated.
The antenna parts would be brought to the session, box pre-drilled, and a 
nanoVNA would be present for preliminary testing.
73MarkK5MGJ

     On Tuesday, December 29, 2020, 03:21:34 AM CST, Mark Brantana via BVARC 
<bvarc@bvarc.org> wrote:  
 
 RonI do have a NanoVNA, and I like the dipole thought. The EFHW design has a 
match. Basically a toroid. I will likely experiment with both antennas.Thank 
you. 73.Mark N5PRD 

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On Dec 29, 2020, at 1:50 AM, Ron Bosch via BVARC <bvarc@bvarc.org> wrote:



And so everyone knows why I am up so darned late, I am waiting for the 02:22 
ISS pass to download a stinking picture since I only have 2 more realistic 
shots at doing so :-)

On Tue, Dec 29, 2020 at 1:43 AM Ron Bosch <boschfam...@gmail.com> wrote:

Mark,A few points that I couldn't make on the net, because of time.1.  I wasn't 
saying don't do it, just don't expect a bunch of QSO's.  You will be limited to 
when the band is really open, and the noise floor is low at the receiving 
antenna.  That will reduce the number of potential contacts by at least an 
order of magnitude.  That being said, operating anything is better than 
operating nothing.
2.  IMHO, and end fed antenna is not a good choice unless you also build a 
matching bridge.  You can't expect to maintain an exact 50-ohm load from an 
end-fed with just a toroid, you also need some shunt resistors, and variable 
caps, and such, and you will need to tune it depending on conditions due to 
reactance unless you built-in a big enough reactance in the circuit, and cut 
the end-fed to exactly 1/2 wave where you want to operate, and the toroid with 
that much permeability probably ain't cheap.  A better approach to me would be 
a 20M 1/2 wave dipole trimmed at operating height with an antenna analyzer.3.  
Doing this in the city, with the amount of interference, and the antenna 
compromises we have to make seems to add a whole other set of issues to making 
contacts.  If I were to do it, I might plan to take the rig out of the city to 
operate it, and get the advantage of using trees and such to get my dipole at 
33 feet up, with a low noise floor to increase my chances of contacts.  
4.  In any event, I suspect you are really going to need at least a Nano VNA to 
make sure you don't smoke the finals, since I doubt seriously that a QRP kit 
includes protection circuitry.  That will add a minimum of $50 to your build, 
although you would save a bunch on the antenna if you built a 1/2 wave dipole 
instead.  Heck, I have an extra 1:1 current balun I can part with for the rock 
bottom price of $0.02, and since I am including my $0.02 in this email, net due 
is $0.00 :-)

RonKE4DRF

On Mon, Dec 28, 2020 at 11:44 PM Mark Brantana via BVARC <bvarc@bvarc.org> 
wrote:

I thought I had things all figured out. I originally wanted to get back on HF, 
and found I could get some great used equipment for about $400, not including 
antenna. Add a 10-80 m antenna from MyAntenna for around $165. I already have 
coax installed. Grand total: $565

Normally, this cost would not be an issue, but like so many others I am short 
on funds due to CV-19, so it is a bad time for this expenditure. I find I can 
buy a 20-m QRP Labs CW mini with case for about $90, and build an EFHW antenna 
for another $20 (including the matching toroid). Grand Total: $110

Everything has its advantages though. A ham since ’78, that’s 1987, I feel that
1. this would force me to improve my almost forgotten code without the 
inevitable distraction of voice alternatives,
2. this would give me a chance to build a full small project and antenna.

Today, though, some felt that this setup would lead to disappointment on my 
part. I am fully aware there will be some limitations to QRP, but the generally 
negative comments form our net were as follows:
1. The band is poor at this time.
2. The 4-5 Watt QRP would not get in, and even a 100 Watt unit would not 
suffice, but needs to be about 500 Watts. This would lead me to need back to 
spending at least $565, and more for an amplifier. (So we are now saying that 
even a typical 100 Watt radio is insufficient?) (I would also note that QRP 
sells a 50 W amplifier for this radio as an add on.

Experience counts. So, I am looking for my fellow hams with QRP experience to 
share their thoughts. I thought I had this all figured out, but if I am going 
down a wrong road, I need to know. What has been your experience with 20-m QRP?

Mark
N5PRD
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