Understandable. That is why I have unlimited data on my cell phone so that my wife and I can still stream when the internet goes down. Hopefully with fiber that will be far and few in between.
73...bruce

On 2/13/2024 6:27 PM, Jeff Greer via BVARC wrote:
Fiber is nice.  Until someone digs a ditch and cuts it.  Been there, done that.  All of my warehouses now have 2 separate Internet connections coming in on disparate infrastructure, so when we lose one, we don't waste a day not shipping product.

-j

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*Sent:* Tuesday, February 13, 2024 5:44 PM
*To:* Jeff Greer via BVARC <bvarc@bvarc.org>
*Cc:* Bruce <kk...@arrl.net>
*Subject:* Re: [BVARC] the phase out of landline phone service
Glad our new provider is Tachus as they are 100% fiber. As long as their generator at their office is working, we will have internet. Good thing about light is that you do not need to keep amplifying it downstream.

We went to VoIP with MagicJack a long time ago when they first started. We keep it unplugged unless we want to make an outbound call. No spam calls that way and all our friends have our cell numbers.

73...bruce

On 2/13/2024 3:18 PM, Jeff Greer via BVARC wrote:

    At work, we're having to convert all our old POTS lines to VoIP. 
    The telcos don't want to spend the money to keep the old copper
    phone lines working.  You'll still be able to have a VoIP phone at
    home, but it'll be useless if you lose Internet.

    All the more reason to know how to get a message out via ham
    radio.  😉

    -j

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    *Subject:* Re: [BVARC] the phase out of landline phone service
    To all
     I have a land line and need to keep it since I have a captel
    phone for hard of hearing

    In a message dated 2/8/2024 2:38:27 PM Central Standard Time,
    bvarc@bvarc.org <mailto:bvarc@bvarc.org> writes:

        Yeah, I’ve had a landline for years and I don’t plan on
        getting rid of it anytime soon but unfortunately they decide
        to pull it. They’re gonna pull it.
        Sent from my iPhone

            On Feb 8, 2024, at 1:39 PM, Chris Medlin via BVARC
            <bvarc@bvarc.org> <mailto:bvarc@bvarc.org> wrote:

        I heard this story in the news this week.. that landline
        phones were being phased out.. that cellular is king… and even
        though I haven’t had a home landline in years, I do know the
        power of having one in times of infrastructural crisis… so
        this story just adds that extra validation of the importance
        of Ham Radio in the event of infrastructure outage.

        When all else fails, Ham Radio.

        “Don’t let them drop us!” Landline users protest AT&T copper
        retirement plan | Ars Technica
        
<https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2024/02/dont-let-them-drop-us-landline-users-protest-att-copper-retirement-plan/>

        Enjoy!

        73

        Chris/AC5CM

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    *Subject:* Re: [BVARC] the phase out of landline phone service
    To all
     I have a land line and need to keep it since I have a captel
    phone for hard of hearing

    In a message dated 2/8/2024 2:38:27 PM Central Standard Time,
    bvarc@bvarc.org <mailto:bvarc@bvarc.org> writes:

        Yeah, I’ve had a landline for years and I don’t plan on
        getting rid of it anytime soon but unfortunately they decide
        to pull it. They’re gonna pull it.
        Sent from my iPhone

            On Feb 8, 2024, at 1:39 PM, Chris Medlin via BVARC
            <bvarc@bvarc.org> <mailto:bvarc@bvarc.org> wrote:

        I heard this story in the news this week.. that landline
        phones were being phased out.. that cellular is king… and even
        though I haven’t had a home landline in years, I do know the
        power of having one in times of infrastructural crisis… so
        this story just adds that extra validation of the importance
        of Ham Radio in the event of infrastructure outage.

        When all else fails, Ham Radio.

        “Don’t let them drop us!” Landline users protest AT&T copper
        retirement plan | Ars Technica
        
<https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2024/02/dont-let-them-drop-us-landline-users-protest-att-copper-retirement-plan/>

        Enjoy!

        73

        Chris/AC5CM

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