In actuality, you can easily DO fax over an SIP VoIP line. I use HamShack Hotline, and in addition I have a 1-800 number from VOIP.MS, which costs me about a buck a month. They also offer a Fax VoIP service for about $2/month, here is the article on their wiki:
https://wiki.voip.ms/article/Virtual_Fax What I often ask myself on this is: A. How many folks are still even USING Facsimile in this day and age of PDF/Internet; and the reverse: B. What do you do when the Interwebs go down? An EMP will fry both the internet AND the copper over Fibre TELCO nodes. So, once again, there will just be a few of us who have our rigs in a Farraday cage who can talk to anyone, should the worst happen. C. All of the above, be it Zombie Apocalypse, Widespread EMP, some MAJOR hub/node being blown up, I firmly believe (being a big fan of TEOTWAWKI fiction*) that most folks will be too busy fighting off their formerly friendly neighbors to be able to provide disaster comms, and calling for help will prove fruitless as most folks within range will be under the same personal constraints. Yah, I agree, I am taking a ‘glass half empty’ stance.. Sorry.. lol Once Bitten Twice Shy, Baby.. (dating myself here) *Check out Tom Abraham’s stuff on Kindle (he is a Newscaster for ABC13 Houston, he writes a whole buncha H-Town centric fiction..) 😉 Happy Valentine’s day! WA5LEE Lee Glassman, ARRL VE, COM-L, COM-T, AUXCOMM, NREMT #E3525310 Tomball, Texas <https://wa5lee.com/> https://wa5lee.com Pronouns: Him/He HCOHSEM AUXCOMM From: BVARC <bvarc-boun...@bvarc.org> On Behalf Of Bruce via BVARC Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2024 7:56 PM To: Tom Watson via BVARC <bvarc@bvarc.org> Cc: Bruce <kk...@arrl.net> Subject: Re: [BVARC] the phase out of landline phone service Not really. I would use an eFAX service. Send them a jpg, pdf, doc(x) file and they transmit almost instantly. Some are free to send 1-2 pages. 73...bruce On 2/13/2024 6:35 PM, Tom Watson via BVARC wrote: Is there a way to run a fax machine over VoIP? On Tue, Feb 13, 2024, 3:19 PM Jeff Greer via BVARC <bvarc@bvarc.org <mailto:bvarc@bvarc.org> > wrote: At work, we're having to convert all our old POTS lines to VoIP. The telcos don't want to spend the money to keep the old copper phone lines working. You'll still be able to have a VoIP phone at home, but it'll be useless if you lose Internet. All the more reason to know how to get a message out via ham radio. 😉 -j _____ From: BVARC <bvarc-boun...@bvarc.org <mailto:bvarc-boun...@bvarc.org> > on behalf of AOL/ CompuServe Mail via BVARC <bvarc@bvarc.org <mailto:bvarc@bvarc.org> > Sent: Thursday, February 8, 2024 4:25 PM To: bvarc@bvarc.org <mailto:bvarc@bvarc.org> <bvarc@bvarc.org <mailto:bvarc@bvarc.org> >; bvarc@bvarc.org <mailto:bvarc@bvarc.org> <bvarc@bvarc.org <mailto:bvarc@bvarc.org> > Cc: AOL/ CompuServe Mail <gmuller...@aol.com <mailto:gmuller...@aol.com> >; m733sha...@gmail.com <mailto:m733sha...@gmail.com> <m733sha...@gmail.com <mailto:m733sha...@gmail.com> > Subject: Re: [BVARC] the phase out of landline phone service To all I have a land line and need to keep it since I have a captel phone for hard of hearing In a message dated 2/8/2024 2:38:27 PM Central Standard Time, bvarc@bvarc.org <mailto:bvarc@bvarc.org> writes: Yeah, I’ve had a landline for years and I don’t plan on getting rid of it anytime soon but unfortunately they decide to pull it. They’re gonna pull it. Sent from my iPhone On Feb 8, 2024, at 1:39 PM, Chris Medlin via BVARC <bvarc@bvarc.org <mailto:bvarc@bvarc.org> > wrote: I heard this story in the news this week.. that landline phones were being phased out.. that cellular is king… and even though I haven’t had a home landline in years, I do know the power of having one in times of infrastructural crisis… so this story just adds that extra validation of the importance of Ham Radio in the event of infrastructure outage. When all else fails, Ham Radio. “Don’t let them drop us!” Landline users protest AT <https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2024/02/dont-let-them-drop-us-landline-users-protest-att-copper-retirement-plan/> &T copper retirement plan | Ars Technica Enjoy! 73 Chris/AC5CM ________________________________________________ Brazos Valley Amateur Radio Club BVARC mailing list BVARC@bvarc.org <mailto:BVARC@bvarc.org> http://mail.bvarc.org/mailman/listinfo/bvarc_bvarc.org Publicly available archives are available here: https://www.mail-archive.com/bvarc@bvarc.org/ ________________________________________________ Brazos Valley Amateur Radio Club BVARC mailing list BVARC@bvarc.org <mailto:BVARC@bvarc.org> http://mail.bvarc.org/mailman/listinfo/bvarc_bvarc.org Publicly available archives are available here: https://www.mail-archive.com/bvarc@bvarc.org/ _____ From: BVARC <bvarc-boun...@bvarc.org <mailto:bvarc-boun...@bvarc.org> > on behalf of AOL/ CompuServe Mail via BVARC <bvarc@bvarc.org <mailto:bvarc@bvarc.org> > Sent: Thursday, February 8, 2024 4:25 PM To: bvarc@bvarc.org <mailto:bvarc@bvarc.org> <bvarc@bvarc.org <mailto:bvarc@bvarc.org> >; bvarc@bvarc.org <mailto:bvarc@bvarc.org> <bvarc@bvarc.org <mailto:bvarc@bvarc.org> > Cc: AOL/ CompuServe Mail <gmuller...@aol.com <mailto:gmuller...@aol.com> >; m733sha...@gmail.com <mailto:m733sha...@gmail.com> <m733sha...@gmail.com <mailto:m733sha...@gmail.com> > Subject: Re: [BVARC] the phase out of landline phone service To all I have a land line and need to keep it since I have a captel phone for hard of hearing In a message dated 2/8/2024 2:38:27 PM Central Standard Time, bvarc@bvarc.org <mailto:bvarc@bvarc.org> writes: Yeah, I’ve had a landline for years and I don’t plan on getting rid of it anytime soon but unfortunately they decide to pull it. They’re gonna pull it. Sent from my iPhone On Feb 8, 2024, at 1:39 PM, Chris Medlin via BVARC <bvarc@bvarc.org <mailto:bvarc@bvarc.org> > wrote: I heard this story in the news this week.. that landline phones were being phased out.. that cellular is king… and even though I haven’t had a home landline in years, I do know the power of having one in times of infrastructural crisis… so this story just adds that extra validation of the importance of Ham Radio in the event of infrastructure outage. When all else fails, Ham Radio. “Don’t let them drop us!” Landline users protest AT <https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2024/02/dont-let-them-drop-us-landline-users-protest-att-copper-retirement-plan/> &T copper retirement plan | Ars Technica Enjoy! 73 Chris/AC5CM ________________________________________________ Brazos Valley Amateur Radio Club BVARC mailing list BVARC@bvarc.org <mailto:BVARC@bvarc.org> http://mail.bvarc.org/mailman/listinfo/bvarc_bvarc.org Publicly available archives are available here: https://www.mail-archive.com/bvarc@bvarc.org/ ________________________________________________ Brazos Valley Amateur Radio Club BVARC mailing list BVARC@bvarc.org <mailto:BVARC@bvarc.org> http://mail.bvarc.org/mailman/listinfo/bvarc_bvarc.org Publicly available archives are available here: https://www.mail-archive.com/bvarc@bvarc.org/ ________________________________________________ Brazos Valley Amateur Radio Club BVARC mailing list BVARC@bvarc.org <mailto:BVARC@bvarc.org> http://mail.bvarc.org/mailman/listinfo/bvarc_bvarc.org Publicly available archives are available here: https://www.mail-archive.com/bvarc@bvarc.org/ ________________________________________________ Brazos Valley Amateur Radio Club BVARC mailing list BVARC@bvarc.org <mailto:BVARC@bvarc.org> http://mail.bvarc.org/mailman/listinfo/bvarc_bvarc.org Publicly available archives are available here: https://www.mail-archive.com/bvarc@bvarc.org/ -- Bruce Paige, KK5DO AMSAT Director Contests and Awards AMSAT Board Member 2016-2024 ARRL Awards Field Checker (DXCC, WAS, 5BWAS, VUCC), VE Houston AMSAT Net - Wed 0200z on Echolink - Conference *AMSAT* Also live streaming MP3 at http://www.amsatnet.com Podcast at http://www.amsatnet.com/podcast.xml or iTunes Latest satellite news on the ARRL Audio News http://www.arrl.org AMSAT on Twitter http://www.twitter.com/amsat
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