On Thu, 2006-07-06 at 14:55 -0500, Robert Citek wrote:
> On Jul 6, 2006, at 1:29 PM, tms wrote:
> > thinking about this weekend's class on email, and about the problems I
> > saw with Daija's email account, is making me wonder whether we should
> > come up with yet another handout, or another page or two to the  
> > parents'
> > handout sheet I posted to the site earlier this week, to address  
> > some of
> > the issues with email.  What do you think?
> 
> What kind of problems were you seeing with Daija's account?  Is this  
> a problem that would go away if we assigned webmail accounts and did  
> that early in the session (e.g first or second class)?
> 
> Handouts and docs are good.  But no handouts/docs are even better.   
> If we could simplify things to the point where docs aren't needed,  
> then it would be one less thing for us to maintain and one less thing  
> for students/parent to lose.
> 
> BTW, can we move this on-list?  I think input from others would be  
> valuable.

<http://groups.yahoo.com/group/bworks_shop/message/446> was posted early
in June -- down near the end it lists some of the problems with his
machine, including his email account.  Basically, the kids have no
experience at email at all until the last day, and were not getting any
hands-on experience even then, just watching what Dave was showing them
on the projector.

But yes, I think starting an online thread about this is a good idea.
Also, for this coming Saturday, we already created their accounts, so is
there a way they can use Evolution on the classroom machines, get some
hands-on?  As I recall, we can receive POP3 no problem, but can't send
outgoing SMTP (maybe something to do with service to the shop itself
rather than the firewall?) -- maybe Karl knows more about it?

There are really two sides to teaching about email -- one is just the
form of communication itself; things like 'netiquette', not flaming, not
giving out personal info to strangers, watching out for spam, phishing,
virus-laden attachments (although those aren't really a big linux
issue), basically using email responsibly and safely.  The second is
using a software tool for email management, and although the functions
exist in any email client, the specifics are a bit different from one
application to the next.

And, maybe I'm making too much out of something that is really very
simple.  Comments?

t.
-- 

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         means are completely empty as regards
         reality.  - Albert Einstein *** 



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