On 7/6/06, tms <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Thu, 2006-07-06 at 14:55 -0500, Robert Citek wrote: > > On Jul 6, 2006, at 1:29 PM, tms wrote: > ... > <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/bworks_shop/message/446> was posted early > in June -- down near the end it lists some of the problems with his > machine, including his email account. Basically, the kids have no > experience at email at all until the last day, and were not getting any > hands-on experience even then, just watching what Dave was showing them > on the projector. > > But yes, I think starting an online thread about this is a good idea. > Also, for this coming Saturday, we already created their accounts, so is > there a way they can use Evolution on the classroom machines, get some > hands-on? As I recall, we can receive POP3 no problem, but can't send > outgoing SMTP (maybe something to do with service to the shop itself > rather than the firewall?) -- maybe Karl knows more about it? > > There are really two sides to teaching about email -- one is just the > form of communication itself; things like 'netiquette', not flaming, not > giving out personal info to strangers, watching out for spam, phishing, > virus-laden attachments (although those aren't really a big linux > issue), basically using email responsibly and safely. The second is > using a software tool for email management, and although the functions > exist in any email client, the specifics are a bit different from one > application to the next. > > And, maybe I'm making too much out of something that is really very > simple. Comments? >
All very good discussion so far. I have the following to contribute. I am not a fan of Yahoo, so I won't recommend that (ask me or rwc why sometime.) GMail is very easy to use. Any new user to GMail gets 100 free invites. But that means we can create a ridiculous # of invites very quickly. If 10 volunteers sign up we have a cool grand to give kids, so no worries on that score. We can sign them up with web mail at the first day, and they can email the instructor or classmates througout the 8 weeks (from school, mom or dad's PC, or the library.). This gives them plenty of hands on experience. GMail particularly is very spam-resistant IMO. (Was that what plagued Daija's account?) I am guessing the city ISP email system gets hit with a lot of spam. Knowing how to use a email (i.e. POP) client is a very good skill to have, but the basic concepts easily translate over to web mail as well. Just my $0.02. Ed -- Ed Howland http://greenprogrammer.blogspot.com ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor --------------------~--> Check out the new improvements in Yahoo! Groups email. http://us.click.yahoo.com/6pRQfA/fOaOAA/yQLSAA/zCsqlB/TM --------------------------------------------------------------------~-> Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/bworks_shop/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
