On Mar 28, 2007, at 12:49 PM, digital spaghetti wrote:

>
> Fair enough on the Basecamp point, but I was looking at an overall
> general app that end-users can use, and Basecamp is quite specific to
> people who need Groupware.
>
> However I have to disagree on your other points.  Look at Drupal or
> Wordpress for example, they are aimed at the end user - but as a
> consiquence of this, you have many hundreds of developers adding new
> code and features to them every day.  Why can't this be the same for
> CakePHP.

This is my own personal take, but I don't think CakePHP is in the  
same category as Wordpress, Drupal, etc. There is a significant  
difference between a CMS and an Application Framework. CakePHP isn't  
a content mangement system, though it's pretty easy to create one  
using it.

We're not aiming for end users, we're aiming for developers.

> And I think if we are to persuade people to develop for CakePHP there
> should be something there other than a few basic tutorials to show
> them what its capible off.

I agree, but if people come to CakePHP expecting a plug and play  
website, I don't really think that's what we're after.

> If you bake it, they will come!

...to *your* website. Sure, if word gets out that some hot app was  
built with CakePHP it'll make us more popular and accepted, but  
mostly in development circles. I think CakePHP should shine for you  
more than it does for us. If it truly does that, people will come  
wanting the goodness anyway.

</opinion type="personal">

-- John

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