Um... accountability? Did you hire the Cake team? Are they responsible to you in any way?
This is their project that they've chosen to share with people. The CakePHP developers are not accountable to anybody but themselves. If you've made decisions that have put you in a bad scenario because of CakePHP's current development status, that is NOT the responsibility of the development team. If you somehow think that donating money gives you some "right" to set deadlines for the development team, you have a sorry misunderstanding of what it means to DONATE money. My organization recently chose to use CakePHP in some applications -- but before doing this, I spent time experimenting with the framework to determine exactly where it's development status was, but more importantly whether or not it would satisfy our needs AS IT WAS. It is YOUR responsibility to make good decisions for your circumstances. It is NOT the development teams responsibility to meet time demans dictated by you. There is a saying... (from where, I don't know!): "Poor planning on your part does not constitute an emergency on mine." Hanzgroove wrote: >>> Chris I'll admit that the time lines ARE based on my own personal >>> needs. That was the point of my message. But I'm not alone. Add my >>> personal needs to the needs of thousands of other programmers who use >>> the framework professionally, and it becomes justified to at least ask >>> the question, "When will this be ready?". "Someday" is not a good >>> enough answer. My point is that we can still be in the same position a >>> year from now, still getting the same answer. "Someday". But this >>> conversation will just end up in a continuous loop. Since it is open >>> source, there doesn't have to be accountability from the CakePHP team >>> members. The finger can always be pointed back at the end user who in >>> turn is relying on the team members to explain what they have built. >>> So in a loop, we continue; >>> >> Sorry its not a good enough answer for you. Maybe CakePHP and open >> source is not for you. >> > > Like I said, the issue of accountability is basically thrown out the > window. And you end up getting a response like that. Then you wonder > where the frustration from the community comes from? > > >> If you think your donations are lining the pockets of lazy >> developers, you sure better have some facts to back up an attack like >> that. >> > > My only evidence is 8+ months to move from 1.1 to 1.2. Is that not > evidence enough? > > Btw, I'm really not this critical of a person but I think its about > time someone asked for some accountability from the Cake team. You're > right, "someday" is not good enough of an answer for me. But again, it > not just me, multiply that by the thousands of other developers who > are asking the same question. I'm just saying out loud what everyone > else is thinking. > > > > > --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Cake PHP" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cake-php?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
