What might also help is a way to include recursion on only certain
associations - which can be done with 'contain', but again, 'contain'
is doing more db queries than it needs to.

On Nov 5, 11:38 am, Brenton B <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> This is getting quite confusing/frustrating ...
>
> If I use 'contain' it's the equivalent of using 'unbind' (on the fly)
> on everything not listed in 'contain' (as described in the Cookbook);
> however, if I use 'contain', it seems to actually execute an extra
> query to get that corresponding information, regardless of association
> type.
>
> For example, list of members with countries (belongsTo), provinces
> (belongsTo), plus a whole bunch of other stuff: webpages, interests,
> etc.
>
> If I'm doing a listing, I just want name, country, and province, so I
> can either do unbind on everything I don't need, or use 'contain' on
> the things I do need .... 'contain' is the logical choice.
> The resulting query does a LEFT JOIN on countries and provinces just
> fine, but it ALSO does an extra query for every single country_id and
> province_id to get the name. So on a big long list I'm getting quite a
> few extra database hits.
>
> Is this supposed to do this? Because it goes against the Cookbook's
> comment of "Using Containable will help you cut down on needless wear
> and tear on your database".
>
> (This gets slightly worse once I go a level deeper.)
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