I agree completely. But the hairs on the back of my neck shake when someone 
says "I need a log on. Help me."  Not even please. I know I shouldn't, but 
straightaway I think "No - go and make an effort first and then come back when 
you're stuck." I have learned loads from this forum and am more than happy to 
pay back where I can but won't do someone else's job for them for free just 
because they can't be bothered.

Jeremy Burns
Class Outfit

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On 5 Feb 2011, at 05:13, John Maxim wrote:

> I think that's what kept Cake going, a friendly community and fast
> response.
> 
> I never complain anyone asks stupid question. It's about learning, not
> to feel ashamed of asking. as long as it isn't spamming or asking the
> same over and over..and over..
> 
> On Feb 5, 7:40 am, hill180 <[email protected]> wrote:
>> I did notice some really basic questions that a tutorial could have 
>> answered, in those cases, I would recommend what some members did, point 
>> them right to the tutorials.  As a community it would be better then a 
>> blanket RTFM, in my humble opinion.
>> 
>> I know I could have been part of those "people" seeking help as I am new to 
>> the forum, although I am new to CakePHP, I am not new to web coding.  I did 
>> my due diligence with the manual website, and Google (Bing.. :)   Ok I never 
>> used Bing, but if I did it would have been the same Google Results).  I even 
>> posted my code when relevant.  Side Note:  The two books I have on CakePHP 
>> are now dated with support for 1.2 with many of elements of the API changed. 
>>  Hard to understand a change log when you don't understand the fundamentals. 
>>  The best teacher was Andrew Perk on youtube.com.  
>> 
>> - H
>> 
>> On Feb 4, 2011, at 12:46 PM, Dave Maharaj wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> I do not know if it’s just me, but I have been on the group 2 and a half 
>>> years now and when I first joined I got told “how to ask a question” if you 
>>> have code show it, errors show it, if you cannot figure something out show 
>>> what your code is now, what you have tried.
>> 
>>> Lately the board is full of “I don’t know how show me” and not sure if 
>>> anyone has noticed this also but this feeding a stry dog only brings the 
>>> dog back for more and more. And people just keep going on and on with it.  
>>> Last week I have pretty much started just opening email , seeing 26 emails 
>>> and straight to the garbage.
>> 
>>> Help group yes! Help me with this please, I can’t seem to figure out how 
>>> to……. I have tried… looked …
>> 
>>> I’m building site, no how to do so help show me help now and when your done 
>>> ftp it up for me too? I just can’t get over that when a question gets asked 
>>> now no code not even showing an attempt and the post gets 20 responses.
>>> Whats the point of learning it if all you have to do is get 20 people doing 
>>> it for you.
>> 
>>> Today:
>>> So I need capcha confirm for in submit in popup to send show me how!
>> 
>>> Tomorrow:
>>> AJAX Logon show me how
>> 
>>> Sunday:
>>> Good job guys take the day off.
>> 
>>> Moday:
>>> TBD….
>> 
>>> Cheers everyone J
>> 
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