Laurie: Your remarks don't contradict mine. You emphasized "FEEDBACK" and an individual's disposition to accept such. I suggested that calling takes "40-100 hours practice over 10- 50 dance events needed to experience the various things that might go wrong or that one might do wrong, while having more experienced callers nearby to counsel one through the mishaps." I certainly could/should have added that suggestions to aspiring callers can also come from dancers. In our context, "counsel" and "feedback" seem synonymous. But in any case, a caller unwilling to accept/ponder such counsel (feedback) from callers and dancers will not improve. Also you noted that some, after mentorship, classes, and support, still lack "the thing that callers make." Can you explain what to you the missing "thing" is? I suspect some of such persons either (1) need closer to 50 experiences to master the necessary skills, and/or (2) have been unlucky to have well-meaning, but less effective counselors Michael Fuerst 802 N Broadway Urbana IL 61801 217-239-5844
--- On Thu, 5/10/12, Laur <[email protected]> wrote: From: Laur <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [Callers] mentorship To: "Caller's discussion list" <[email protected]> List-Post: [email protected] Date: Thursday, May 10, 2012, 12:28 AM Michael, Trust me, I (and I'm sure others) have seen callers go through mentorship, classes, support, etc. And - they do not have the thing that callers make. Callers that are serious want and need feedback, the community, the mentoring and again FEEDBACK. Those that are- seek and respond to this. Those are nots - not. They are into them and not into the rest. So the caution is - callers that aren't into the caller community feedback mentorship ... lose. and the community that has to dance to them, loses. Laurie P West MI ~ --- On Wed, 5/9/12, Michael Fuerst <[email protected]> wrote: > From: Michael Fuerst <[email protected]> > Subject: [Callers] mentorship > To: "Caller's discussion list" <[email protected]> > Date: Wednesday, May 9, 2012, 3:06 AM > Contra calling is a relatively easy > skill to learn--much easier than mastering fiddle-playing, > auto repair, child rearing or Photoshop. After getting > several hours of initial instruction in contra calling, the > challenge becomes getting 40-100 hours practice over 10- 50 > dance events needed to experience the various things that > might go wrong or that one might do wrong, while having more > experienced callers nearby to counsel one through the > mishaps. And of course workshops will intercept some of > the potential mishaps. > > Michael Fuerst 802 N Broadway Urbana IL > 61801 217-239-5844 > > --- On Wed, 5/9/12, Rich Goss <[email protected]> > wrote: > > From: Rich Goss <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [Callers] mentorship > To: "Caller's discussion list" <[email protected]> > Date: Wednesday, May 9, 2012, 12:55 AM > > I may have missed it, but I haven't seen William Watson's > excellent collection of caller resources. > > http://www.quiteapair.us/calling/ > > Rich > _______________________________________________ > Callers mailing list > [email protected] > http://www.sharedweight.net/mailman/listinfo/callers > _______________________________________________ > Callers mailing list > [email protected] > http://www.sharedweight.net/mailman/listinfo/callers > _______________________________________________ Callers mailing list [email protected] http://www.sharedweight.net/mailman/listinfo/callers
