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On Jan 4, 2013 5:47 PM, "Maia McCormick" <[email protected]> wrote:

> Perhaps this very discussion/movement is a sign that there is a need for
> change. While I respect the value of the traditional terms, and how much
> easier they make things for everyone, I certainly understand how they can
> be constraining and frustrating for those of us who like a) switching roles
> and/or b) switching gender/gender presentation.
>
> Perhaps this is a minority forcing their views on others. But I see it as
> small potatoes compared to said majority constantly forcing their views on
> us. Sometimes it's a pain to be gender- or role-noncomformist in this
> society. The feeling of being a young woman at a dance, following the lead
> of a man who dances far too close for comfort, or being a man who dances
> follow and is constantly told that he's in the wrong place, or partnering
> with your same sex friend only to be told "there are two men dancing
> together over there, why don't you just split up and dance with each
> other!" as if no one would want a same-sex dance couple if there were any
> other option available, or being a transperson who is intrusively asked
> their sex when they ask someone to dance. And yes, I've made this point
> hyperbolically, but my point is: if a minority seems to be "forcing" its
> views on a majority, it is often just push-back for 99x that
> forcing-of-views from the past, that doesn't seem like view-forcing
> precisely *because* it comes from a majority. But in a certain sense, the
> use of gendered contra terms is just that, we've just ceased to notice it
> as such.
>
> A last thought: everything is social engineering, because social forces are
> at work in everything.
>
> On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 11:29 AM, <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > Who the heck are we to force our views
> > on others? Things will change if there is a reason for them to change.
> > Dancing is PLAY, not a means for social engineering.
> >
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