Epic fail replyall. :) On Jan 4, 2013 5:54 PM, "Ron Blechner" <[email protected]> wrote:
> Where are you? You in nyc or mass? > On Jan 4, 2013 5:47 PM, "Maia McCormick" <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Perhaps this very discussion/movement is a sign that there is a need for >> change. While I respect the value of the traditional terms, and how much >> easier they make things for everyone, I certainly understand how they can >> be constraining and frustrating for those of us who like a) switching >> roles >> and/or b) switching gender/gender presentation. >> >> Perhaps this is a minority forcing their views on others. But I see it as >> small potatoes compared to said majority constantly forcing their views on >> us. Sometimes it's a pain to be gender- or role-noncomformist in this >> society. The feeling of being a young woman at a dance, following the lead >> of a man who dances far too close for comfort, or being a man who dances >> follow and is constantly told that he's in the wrong place, or partnering >> with your same sex friend only to be told "there are two men dancing >> together over there, why don't you just split up and dance with each >> other!" as if no one would want a same-sex dance couple if there were any >> other option available, or being a transperson who is intrusively asked >> their sex when they ask someone to dance. And yes, I've made this point >> hyperbolically, but my point is: if a minority seems to be "forcing" its >> views on a majority, it is often just push-back for 99x that >> forcing-of-views from the past, that doesn't seem like view-forcing >> precisely *because* it comes from a majority. But in a certain sense, the >> use of gendered contra terms is just that, we've just ceased to notice it >> as such. >> >> A last thought: everything is social engineering, because social forces >> are >> at work in everything. >> >> On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 11:29 AM, <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> > Who the heck are we to force our views >> > on others? Things will change if there is a reason for them to change. >> > Dancing is PLAY, not a means for social engineering. >> > >> _______________________________________________ >> Callers mailing list >> [email protected] >> http://www.sharedweight.net/mailman/listinfo/callers >> >
